Did Gainey's JR lose to Gr Ch Buck?

[Officially Retired]

i never heard that one .and i live right here where he was at .if he did it was kept a big secret.not to mention why would melvin gainey keep him,when he would put one down in a heart beat.

The dog didn't quit, he lost game and won 3 more.

Jack

[waccamaw]

can y'all proove he won over JR .i am in the middle of Buck country and redboy /jocko country .and just can't remember anything about this .not saying it did not happen just don't know about it .

[evolutionkennels]

Stp told me. But was super impressed with Jr

[FarmersChoice]

maybe he lost game i think is what it was and was giving another go says he went on town three more times so im sure there glad they kept him around lol either way u pick up 3 more wins after loosing to one the best ever u cant look down on that

[Officially Retired]

can y'all proove he won over JR .i am in the middle of Buck country and redboy /jocko country .and just can't remember anything about this .not saying it did not happen just don't know about it .

Look at the published record I put on the first page of this thread.

It was written by Barney Fife, who was not only friends with STP, but he is the man who saved Buck after the Sandman match.

Jack

[waccamaw]

i hate to be the one to tell y'all but ,i just talked with an old man that was at all of JR's hunts .he said buck was not in one of the hunts ,and MELVIN GAINEYS son is still around and he is the one who handled JR in all his hunts..the old man i am talking about is 80 years old .still hunts.he told me to tell anybody to call him if they wanted details on Jr.

[cdj396]

Just talk to CARL MIMS he said GAINEY'S JR beat everything put in front of him. HE and MELVIN GAINEY were friends thanks tj

[waccamaw]

Plus in order to be a gr ch you have to win 5 straight to be legit same with a ch.

[Officially Retired]

i hate to be the one to tell y'all but ,i just talked with an old man that was at all of JR's hunts .he said buck was not in one of the hunts ,and MELVIN GAINEYS son is still around and he is the one who handled JR in all his hunts..the old man i am talking about is 80 years old .still hunts.he told me to tell anybody to call him if they wanted details on Jr.

Well, somebody's got it wrong, and of course it's hard to say who.

This is why I originally asked the question, because I wasn't sure. I don't see how a dog as famous as Gr Ch Buck (or dogmen as good and famous as Barney Fife and STP) could have "got it wrong" as to who Grand Champion Buck whipped for #5. Keep in mind, STP also owned Yellow's sister, so he has to have some idea about who Yellow and his littermates are. This is the direct quote from Barney Fife:

"In Buck's 5th he went into Rodney's two time winner JR, littermate to Gr. Ch. Yellow ROM. JR was handled at :52 minutes and could not go any further. JR later went on to win three more."

I mean, how many "JRs" can there be, that were brothers to Yellow, and who also won a total of 5x?

It seems either the top veterans STP and Barney Fife are wrong ... or some "old man" is wrong (or, possibly, the old man and those associated with JR are trying to sweep a disappointing loss under the carpet ).

Anyway, it's hard to say for sure, since none of us was there, but it is an interesting factoid nonetheless.

Jack

[evolutionkennels]

Well, somebody's got it wrong, and of course it's hard to say who.

This is why I originally asked the question, because I wasn't sure. I don't see how a dog as famous as Gr Ch Buck (or dogmen as good and famous as Barney Fife and STP) could have "got it wrong" as to who Grand Champion Buck whipped for #5. Keep in mind, STP also owned Yellow's sister, so he has to have some idea about who Yellow and his littermates are. This is the direct quote from Barney Fife:

"In Buck's 5th he went into Rodney's two time winner JR, littermate to Gr. Ch. Yellow ROM. JR was handled at :52 minutes and could not go any further. JR later went on to win three more."

I mean, how many "JRs" can there be, that were brothers to Yellow, and who also won a total of 5x?

It seems either the top veterans STP and Barney Fife are wrong ... or some "old man" is wrong (or, possibly, the old man and those associated with JR are trying to sweep a disappointing loss under the carpet ).

Anyway, it's hard to say for sure, since none of us was there, but it is an interesting factoid nonetheless.

Jack

It is what it is. BUCK was a superstar. The man who hosted the Buck vs Sandman show lost to Machobuck with a 1xer , he publicly said thatch two best pit dogs that he ever saw in his 40 years of dogging was Buck and Machobuck, and he couldn't tell you which one was better. He said sandman would have killed BUCK in 5 minutes if he could touch him, but Buck was too slick. He said Machobuck was slick as glass and had Jocko finish. Interestingly enough, they are very related. JR. did lose to Buck. However as it stands today, in my humble opinion, the Buck line wouldn't be where it is today if not for redboy jocko. Like Jack said, yellow and Jr.s littermate sister sassy had an all game litter with Buck. Yellowbuck, butkus piggy, Nico rom mss leaky. Blondie rom, all of this wouldn't be possible withoutbthe redboy jocko.