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Thread: Did Gainey's JR lose to Gr Ch Buck?

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by FarmersChoice View Post
    maybe he lost game i think is what it was and was giving another go says he went on town three more times so im sure there glad they kept him around lol either way u pick up 3 more wins after loosing to one the best ever u cant look down on that
    He was picked up game. Story was so impressed he bred Buck to Jr.'s sister ch. Sassy. And from stp 's mouth, every single dog from that litter made the cut.

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    No doubt he was a good dog ,ask yourself this .why has never been mentioned before ?and you had Rodney's jr when it was gainers jr ,Melvin's son who handled his name was russ..maybe it was another JR.but I don't see .,how it matters both dogs were. Great dogs .in a great time .how ever JR destroyed everything in front of him.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by waccamaw View Post
    No doubt he was a good dog ,ask yourself this .why has never been mentioned before?
    It has been mentioned before: Barney Fife wrote that piece in the 1990s.



    Quote Originally Posted by waccamaw View Post
    and you had Rodney's jr when it was gainers jr ,Melvin's son who handled his name was russ..
    I didn't have it, Barney Fife did. I don't know why it was listed as Rodney's.



    Quote Originally Posted by waccamaw View Post
    maybe it was another JR.but I don't see .,how it matters both dogs were. Great dogs .in a great time .
    Maybe it was, but then again, how many dogs named "JR" could there possibly be ... who were both littermates to Gr Ch Yellow and 5xWs?

    Don't see how it could be different dogs ... makes more sense to think some details got messed up along the way, but it has to be the same JR.



    Quote Originally Posted by waccamaw View Post
    how ever JR destroyed everything in front of him.
    If it is the same JR, then he destroyed everything in his path ... except Buck.

    Like Evo said, JR's extreme quality (even with the loss) is what made STP breed his sister to Buck ... and the rest (as they say) is history

    Jack

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    Makes me wonder why nobody else knew about .if a man can mess up on one detail he can mess up on another,correct?jr was known as Melvin gainers jr ,that sounds nothing like Rodney's jr .and stp and Barney were good friends ,right.?i know several men that seen all JR's hunts .they all said he never met buck..ow if they had don't y'all think this would have been talked about before now ? It never happened ,but I will say both dogs were solid ,.

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    Talk back to Carl Mims he said someone was not right he said GAINERS JR never lost tj

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    Well Carl Mimi's called me tonight,he said Barney told him that buck or sandman were not worth saving.said it was a dull show a lot of laying around.and he confirmed JR NEVER WENT AGAINST BUCK.I think this will be my last post on the subject .I don't want to get anything started .i know evo has some good dogs.if anybody. Wants to know full details on Gaineys Jr .contact BFKC C.MIMMS. I am trying to get him to write a book.the man is full of history on the dogs .Ca Jack you need to get with him on a book deal ,with his history and your writing skills. Think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waccamaw View Post
    Well Carl Mimi's called me tonight,he said Barney told him that buck or sandman were not worth saving.said it was a dull show a lot of laying around.and he confirmed JR NEVER WENT AGAINST BUCK.I think this will be my last post on the subject .I don't want to get anything started .i know evo has some good dogs.if anybody. Wants to know full details on Gaineys Jr .contact BFKC C.MIMMS. I am trying to get him to write a book.the man is full of history on the dogs .Ca Jack you need to get with him on a book deal ,with his history and your writing skills. Think about it.

    Barney Fife's own words about Buck can be found in the article he took the time to write to the Journal, in which he publicly said Buck had virtually no weaknesses as a match dog ...

    Not to mention the fact that, as a competitor, STP has 10x the match record of Carl Mims, with multiple Chs and Gr Chs to his own personal show credit, and he likewise publicly said Buck was the best he ever owned ... so if Carl Mims is saying "something else" then I wouldn't trust anything he said.

    To say a dog the caliber of Buck "wasn't worth saving" puts anything that person says after that into the Bullshit Pile, as far as I am concerned.

    Jack

    (Since Carl isn't here to defend himself, we should leave him out of this, really. But I have seen the actual writings of the men in question I quoted, and am not going off of supposed phone conversations.)

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    honestly barney is not a man i would hold true to his word i know his partner from back in the day and he was a bit fictitious

  9. #29
    which bloodline/descendants are producing the best results these days?

  10. #30
    I stand corrected.. it was not Jr. I CALLED STP, SAID IT WAS A VINCE COOPER BRED ANIMAL. THAT IT INDEED WAS RODNEY NOT GAINEY. I SPOKE TO THE OLD MAN FOR AN HOUR. WHAT A LEGEND. SO SONNY, I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY, I WAS WRONG, YOU WERE RIGHT.

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