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Thread: scatter bred v's line bred

  1. #21
    Sounds similar to Rushin's GRCH 35 story. 35 never produced much for ol' Bill.

  2. #22
    Very similar story. The funny thing is this young guy was just getting into the dogs. He went out and spent some serious $$$ with some well known and respected dog people. She moved herself from way in the back to right up front, one chain spot at a time. This bitch didn't either. She was bred to three really nice males that had produced themselves. Got one to the show and a game plug from three breedings. They were bred together as a 1/2 bro-sis breeding. They did not measure up either. I asked the question because every line has a starting point before it becomes its own and I imagine there are some that are filled with multiple lines themselves. EWO

  3. #23
    Best dogs I've had were 2,3 or even 4 way crosses. I'm no a breeder though. However I like to start out with lets say a 3 way cross. You have 3 options when breeding him. You can try to take him back to all the blood in him and from there start inter/line breeding. Eli/carver-Bolio/tombstone are crosses i prefer.

  4. #24
    How about keeping 2-3 pure lines between kennel partners, and use the crossed dogs as working dogs and the pure as brood.

  5. #25
    I prefer to only keep working dogs. Only working dogs will get bred. It's one thing to check a dog in school. True colours are shown in hunts. jmho

  6. #26
    I hear ya. I wouldn't keep a cold dog in my yard if someone paid me to. I also wouldn't keep a game plug either. The ones qualify to stay here are the ones ready to be shown. The game plugs and retired dogs could stay with the other partners because since they can't condition a dog, they need to be useful somehow.

  7. #27
    A game plug can be very valuable if he is bred the right way. But i understand what you are saying. Only dogs good enough to show are good enough to keep. The best show dogs will get bred the most and their best offspring and so on. This is how we do it. Not saying this is the only way to do it. Works fine for us though.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by skipper View Post
    True colours are shown in hunts. jmho
    This could not be further from the truth in a lot of aspects. Is it possible to see true colors in a show? Sure. It's surely not the only way, and it's not the way that happens most often. If you're a person that likes to look at a dog for a bit here and there and let the show be whatever, then you may see that.

    If you're a person that likes to know what you have before you step into that arena, you can see all you want at the house MOST of the time, barring running into a legitimate bad dog. There have been dogs that stepped out of the home box with their faces missing, half missing, legs broken with some amputated due to the severity, etc etc. I've seen similar things happen a lot more often at home with two serious dogs than a show where 98% of the time, one dog is clearly better than the other, and it basically amounts to a snowball effect for the loser.

    If someone thinks true colors are shown in matches, then I'm of the mindset they've never seriously wanted to see what true colors were all about, and that's okay. We all want different things out of our dogs that we breed and/or show.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by FrostyPaws View Post
    This could not be further from the truth in a lot of aspects. Is it possible to see true colors in a show? Sure. It's surely not the only way, and it's not the way that happens most often. If you're a person that likes to look at a dog for a bit here and there and let the show be whatever, then you may see that.

    If you're a person that likes to know what you have before you step into that arena, you can see all you want at the house MOST of the time, barring running into a legitimate bad dog. There have been dogs that stepped out of the home box with their faces missing, half missing, legs broken with some amputated due to the severity, etc etc. I've seen similar things happen a lot more often at home with two serious dogs than a show where 98% of the time, one dog is clearly better than the other, and it basically amounts to a snowball effect for the loser.

    If someone thinks true colors are shown in matches, then I'm of the mindset they've never seriously wanted to see what true colors were all about, and that's okay. We all want different things out of our dogs that we breed and/or show.

    Why put your dog through that kind of stuff at home? Why take that out of your dog before you even get to show it? If a dog is killing another one in school i pick the bottom dog up. If it's not up to standard I'll cull it. No need to skulldrag dogs in rolls. That's what the shows are for. I'm well aware that a show doesn't equally means you get to see your dog getting put under alot of pressure. If not you get the win and you put him out there again. Eventually you will run into a dog that will test your dog. And if not, great you got yourself something very special.

  10. #30
    If you for some reason aren't able to match a dog, THEN and only then could I see the use of roll your dog like a hard show. That for me will never be the norm though.

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