Do you think it makes the dog bite harder ?no! What about one dog that has natural long teeth verses one who has natural short teeth .is that an unfair advantage ?what about one on the juice or banamane,I would say that is an unfair advantage.(most are at an unfair advantage just because an idiot owns them.)
I see your point. However steel teeth is something different imo. If im not mistaken this happened to evolution? Ofcourse they wont bite harder. But it COULD be that steel teeth are way more durable and can inflict a bigger amount of damage? And most of all it's unethical. Juice is only a good thing if you know what you do. Could be just as much of a disadvantage. I want to know what others think of this. Is it just me that see a problem with steel teeth?
"What about one dog that has natural long teeth verses one who has natural short teeth" This makes no sence to me. It's like saying it's unfair to match a better dog than the opponents.
What i'm trying to say is that I see no problem to juice your dog or do whatever it takes to get him in best possible shape. But when you start replacing parts of the dog with unnatural materials i think a line has been crossed.
JMHO.
people still sharpening their dogs teeth too
In my opinion, it all boils down to what the focus is within the contest.
If your focus is "winning at all costs," then you are liable to "do anything" to win, including cheating.
Having metal teeth is simply cheating. There is no part of a dog's body that is comprised of metal, and if your dog's teeth naturally suck, then your dog might just be an unfit specimen.
Ideally-speaking, these contests are designed to find our which dog is better, naturally, FOR BREEDING AND BREED-ENHANCING PURPOSES, not to see which owner/handler can cheat the other or come up with the right chemicals/implants/armor, etc. to eek-out a win.
And speaking of teeth, TRULY good dogs can still win without them
The issues of steroids, banamine, etc. are all rife with debate and controversy. Even the human sports of boxing, baseball, etc. shun the idea of steroids. Bicyclists have had their titles removed for steroid use. Therefore steroids are almost universally considered cheating and not "clean sportsmanship."
Denial of this simple fact isn't rebuttal; it is only denial.
Jack
We can consider jucie cheating in general. But were do we draw the line for what is considered juice? Is it just because it is illegal in human sports? One example is that if you compete in France with creatine in your system you'll be considered on juice. But not were I live. Ofcourse testosterone can be considered cheating, but we use way more than that in the dogs. There will always be impossible to lay down rules unless there is testing. So I guess it's up to each individual how much to cheat himself and his own dogs.
Why would juice be illegal, but not a diet that is better designed for competition over another?
The actual sport we are talking about is illegal, so why would steroids be unethical?
I do agree with Jack in that we should be 100% natural and go into such a contest with the purpose of all the reasons he mentioned above.
However, there is still a winner and a loser and there is much to be lost.............unless, there's just not much money on the line and the two contestants are in it for "high purposes"......as in a gentleman's agreement. I ain't met too many of those.
As for teeth, I've seen shorter teeth do more damage and longer teeth be a disadvantage.......too many variables.
So where is the line drawn on advantages becoming a cheat?
lets be honest how many % of the dogman are using steroids. i think more then 70 %
Many of them are way too many. I've seen "CH" get laid to rest in yard accidents becuase they where not on the juice and had no roid rage to get them thru.Originally Posted by R2L
My dog got no teeth due to my ameture mistakes being to keen to let him chew shit a young age not because of poor breeding i have 7 dogs in my yard of all different breedings and the only 1 with all his teeth was 3 when i got him.
I know a guy who's been into dogs longer than most people here have been alive, and had more fights (and gone into more great dogs) than probably everyone here put together, who has never used steroids
Jack
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