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    Biting endurance

    I have been wondering if a dogs ability to keep a hold longer has to do with bite wotk or just with the dogs wind (stamina condition), I ask this because as I have been working out my dog he has been able to keep a hold, way longer than before when I give him some tugging play. Yet all I do for his work out is walking, running and sprinting, I only give him some tugging play every once in a while.

    Would like to see your opinions.

    Jon

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    It depends on the dog. Some like to hold, some like to bite and release. The ones that bite and release in my opinion are the hard biters. Although some holders do have hard bites, it won't do as much damage as bite and release and it also won't help if they don't shake either.
    But as for your question, yes it will help the mouth doing both running and mouth work.
    You could work the dogs mouth the first couple weeks of the keep, stop, and just run him, and during those last few weeks of the keep, his mouth will still be just as good or better come show time.
    Having a holding dog could be your best bet if he's holding the right spot or it could be his own demise. What I mean by that is they could tire out the hog and then kill him with a good hold. But also if he's not letting go and if it goes the distance and you can't make a handle due to him still having a hold, his chances of surviving will dramatically decrease. Know your dog's weakness and his strength and help him during his keep.
    Example 1: let's say I have a bitch who I've seen finish a hog in :30. I also know that she doesn't have a hard bite but she has that drive to finish and she could hold a hog down for as long as she want. Now that I know all this, for her next keep I will work on her mouth throughout the keep to help her keep her holds. She can't over work her mouth because she had no mouth to begin with.
    Example 2: if I have a hard biting bitch, I will work her mouth during the off season(before I lock her) once she's lock, I'll stop all mouth work during the keep. This is just to make sure I don't work the mouth out of her. All the exercises she's getting during her keep are enough to keep her mouth stay strong.

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    R2L
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    imo it will never improve the bite, but if you train the muscles they wont "acidify" or later. as said stop the mouthwork 2-3 weeks before you want them to put in action

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon P. Lebron View Post
    I have been wondering if a dogs ability to keep a hold longer has to do with bite wotk or just with the dogs wind (stamina condition), I ask this because as I have been working out my dog he has been able to keep a hold, way longer than before when I give him some tugging play. Yet all I do for his work out is walking, running and sprinting, I only give him some tugging play every once in a while.
    Would like to see your opinions.
    Jon
    That is exactly what mouth work is for: to increase the long-term endurance of the jaw muscles. It will not make a dog bite harder.

    Think about boxing: a boxer is either a puncher, or he is not a puncher, because no amount of training is going to turn a feather-fisted man into a slugger. KO punchers are born, they're not made. By training, sparring, and hitting the bag all a boxer is doing is increasing his muscular stamina ... his ability to stay in the fight, keep his hands up, and keep punching ... to within whatever power limit his genetics have determined ...

    And in exactly the same fashion, bite work will work a dog's jaw muscles ... and increase the dog's ability to KEEP BITING ... within whatever "hardness" limit his genetics have determined.

    Jack

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    Thank for your opinion, I guess I will be giving my dog a bit more of bite work.

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    So bite work would teach a dog to breath with it's mouth closed?

    You see back in P.R. I had a bitch (she was the family pet) and all I gave her was bite work. I had a wheel barrel tire hanging from a tree from which she would hang. Now when ever I played with her she would not let go of the rag, she would release only to get a better hold of it, any way I can remember that as she would get tired she would be huffing and puffing with her mouth closed and wouldn't let go. Would this be the result of her bite work with the wheel barrel tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon P. Lebron View Post
    So bite work would teach a dog to breath with it's mouth closed?
    I have always felt that was my only real benefit of any mouthwork.

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    R2L
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    often when you first put a dog on a springpole, his jaw area will start shaking when u get him off.

    muscles, that can be trained ^^

    jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2L View Post
    often when you first put a dog on a springpole, his jaw area will start shaking when u get him off.

    muscles, that can be trained ^^

    jmo
    Completely agree with you, also some dogs jaw will shake and the dog will start to loose it's grip, when you first give them bite work. But as time pases and you give them more bite work this stops happening, I guess it's jaw muscle is being worked out, like Jack said, it's the equivalent of a boxer hitting the bag.

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