Best to Best vs Pretty Ped?

[Black Hand]

I don't know if I would breed to a dog out of a "solid litter" over an ace who was the only one worth feeding. for me it comes back to your question, how was the dog bred? does that ace embody everything that was hoped for in that breeding? was it a well caculated breeding that just happened to capture lightening in a bottle and the rest of em just didn't get what he got? sometimes that's how the dice roll. could possibly be different if u repeated the same breeding.

[No Quarter Kennel]

I don't know if I would breed to a dog out of a "solid litter" over an ace who was the only one worth feeding. for me it comes back to your question, how was the dog bred? does that ace embody everything that was hoped for in that breeding? was it a well caculated breeding that just happened to capture lightening in a bottle and the rest of em just didn't get what he got? sometimes that's how the dice roll. could possibly be different if u repeated the same breeding.

Exactly Black Hand. I agree. There are about a million variables. Well, not really a million, but there are a lot of variables to consider. For me personally, I would rather breed to a bum of a solid litter than the ACE of a litter where he's the freak. The odds of getting a freak is slim, in my opinion. If the freak is a bum, same goes.

The only think I don't completely agree with, and I'm assuming just a bit here, but your last sentence, regarding, "could possibly be different if you repeated the same breeding" shouldn't be a possibility, IF YOU KNOW THE BACKGROUND OF YOUR DOGS. If I really know my pedigree, I know all 14 dogs in the first 3 gens, then I should know what to expect. If the family is solid and it's a well done, linebred family, then the results, most likely, will be the same, concerning the average of the litter.

[Kimo615]

I suppose you are referencing me when I asked everyone and Jack to evaluate the ped I posted. I am knowledgeable about the dogs in that ped and have talked with Mr Garner about them on several occasions. However...I was looking for some outside opinions. Other experiences with very tight bred dogs in general. Not just mine. I try and learn from everyone. Jack has alot more knowledge than myself just like TG does. And I'm not very familiar with the WIC. That really showed me just how inbred he is lol I knew he was...but everybody is uncle daddy in his ped lol. Ive never had dog inbred to this level before and was looking for some outside opinions and knowledge. I still would appreciate any of either from anyone. Especially if you know any of the dogs because some people only tell you what they want you believe.

[No Quarter Kennel]

I suppose you are referencing me when I asked everyone and Jack to evaluate the ped I posted. I am knowledgeable about the dogs in that ped and have talked with Mr Garner about them on several occasions. However...I was looking for some outside opinions. Other experiences with very tight bred dogs in general. Not just mine. I try and learn from everyone. Jack has alot more knowledge than myself just like TG does. And I'm not very familiar with the WIC. That really showed me just how inbred he is lol I knew he was...but everybody is uncle daddy in his ped lol. Ive never had dog inbred to this level before and was looking for some outside opinions and knowledge. I still would appreciate any of either from anyone. Especially if you know any of the dogs because some people only tell you what they want you believe.

No Kimo, I wasn't referencing anything. I literally try to start some conversation at times b/c it is, after all, an internet forum specializing in a topic we are all here for. I'd like to contribute to this board so that it takes off and stays took off as I think it's a great thing

I wish I could tell you about your dogs, but I'm not real versitile. I know what I feed very well, but I'm not the know all bloodlines kind of guy. More of a breeder than anything. Best of luck to you.