i stopped giving liver because of the loose stool,..........chicken quarter,cup of rice,softboiled egg & a multi vitamin.....and the added fats....if you need to grind the bone then so be it, the bone does help support the firm stool
i stopped giving liver because of the loose stool,..........chicken quarter,cup of rice,softboiled egg & a multi vitamin.....and the added fats....if you need to grind the bone then so be it, the bone does help support the firm stool
I have cut everything out but the chicken this is day five and still has diahrrea, tried pumpkin and that did not work, lost for ideas. Is this something I should be concerned about and make a vet visit?
That's a good idea vomiting and the runs is a dangerous situation. Time to get your dog stabilized.
LOYALTY BEFORE ROYALTY !!!
Feeding chicken alone won't make it right. What you were feeding is the right way. Just because the dogs are in their 5th day doesn't mean they should be good. You need to go back to the drawing board and start from the beginning like how I showed you. If that doesn't work then your dogs are not meant to eat raw(bones). Pitbulls are not your average dogs. Their system, body, and mind are superior compare to most breeds. From what the owners of other breeds have told me, they are going through the same problem as you. I haven't had a pit that didn't like bones, so if I was you, I'd go back to kibbles and slowly add raw to their feed. Let their system get used to it first. Good luck.
Special Effect, How are your dogs doing ? Hope everything is okay....
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How are your dogs doing today? Is Kenji still having loose stool? If he has had that for several days, be careful he does not get dehydrated.
Maybe heat up some chicken broth and give it to him to help keep fluids in him.
A few quick questions, how did your dogs do on kibble and what kibble did you feed them? Did you add anything to the kibble?
You might want to try a slower change over. If they both did well with eating kibble, maybe put them back on the kibble until the diarrhea stops and then introduce the raw gradually. My old dog now will sometimes get the runs here and there, and I feed her a bland diet of cooked chicken and rice with a little kibble soaked with warm water. That bland diet is easy to digest and it helps firm up the stool.
When I first changed over to feeding more raw, I did not start with chicken quarters, I fed chicken necks and chicken wings. These are softer and easier for them to learn to chew, as some dogs will gulp down a leg or thigh and not chew the bone properly. The necks especially were easy to chew up and eat.
Have you thought of trying a premade raw food? The Nature’s Variety raw is a quality product and a complete meal, plus everything is ground. Maybe buy some of that and see how they do with it after the get the loose stool under control.
Some dogs can switch over to eating raw chicken quarters with no problems while others need a more gradual change over. I’d try taking it slow and seeing how they do with some premade raw and chicken necks.
Common sense isn't so common these days.
Kenji is doing good he is not dehydrated but he still has loose stools, I was feeding him fromm kibble and he was doing ok on that, although he would vomit quite frequently and sometimes choke when he was eating it because the kibble was small and he would eat fast. I oredered chicken necks and backs and they came in today so will feed him that tomorrow. I also bought a grinder that should be here tuesday and I was going to try to grind a little bit also. He loves the quarters but he does eat them down pretty fast. I fasted him 1 day this week but that did not help and he had a little bit of a hard stool today but is back to loose tonight.
should I keep him on quarters or try another type of meat?
Thank you all for asking about him
Craig
Thanks for the update, I am glad Kenji is doing ok. But he is only 7 months old so he’s still a growing pup and you want to make sure he is getting proper nutrition.
Fromm is decent kibble, but since he eats it too fast, you might try soaking it in warm water for about 20 mins before you feed him. This helps slow him down when he eats it. If you decide to feed kibble and raw, feed them separately. I feed my dog her raw meal at noon and her kibble meal at night.
Necks are good but backs have a lot of bone and fat and I would freeze those to feed later when he is more used to the raw food.
It sounds like he is eating too quickly and not chewing the bones up properly. When I started feeding raw, I wanted my dog to learn to chew the bones so I would feed her a chicken wing and hold the end of it so she had to eat it slower and had to chew it. This taught her not to gobble it down without chewing. I would also feed both your dogs completely separately so they don’t feel they have to compete over the food and try to eat it too fast.
Chicken quarters are good to feed once they learn to chew them well because the ratio of meat to bone is better. But they have larger bones than the necks so maybe try semi frozen necks to see if you can get him to chew them more before swallowing them.
I have used a hammer to break up the bones a bit as I don’t have a grinder and not all grinders will grind bone. But it is better if you try to teach them to eat slower and to chew up the bones. Sometimes feeding a thigh or leg when it is partly frozen will help get them to chew it more.
How much are you feeding him? Most dogs should get about 2% of their body weight in raw meat and bones. So a 50 pound dog would get about 1 pound of raw meat and bone. Each dog is different and some might need more, some less, it depends on the dog.
Has his stool gone back to normal at all? Has it been loose the whole time he has been eating the raw chicken? It should clear up by now, it usually is not that big an adjustment for a dog to change over to raw from kibble.
Have you considered trying the pre-made raw food like Nature’s Variety? It comes in rolls and in patties and is a good way to start raw feeding since it is all ground. It’s expensive though. But to start off it might be worth a try to see if it helps with the loose stool issue.
Common sense isn't so common these days.
Originally Posted by Special Effex
I don't really have an answer for you. Even my puppies will eat raw, bones and all, so I would be guessing as to why yours won't.
As to why your dogs are vomiting, etc., again I would be guessing as mine never did that (and I have fed hundreds of dogs raw).
One thing I will say is that you only fed part of the diet I recommended. I honestly don't think that has anything to do with the vomiting, but it's juat not a complete diet is all.
As a final thought, I do know raw isn't good to feed if your dogs have coccidia, so you might want to consider that as a possibility.
Jack
I have been feeding Kenji about 2lbs a day he is 70 lbs, he still has cannon butt but yesterday he did have part of a hard stool but every time since then he has been loose, he is doing good and chews pretty good just loose stools, he has only vomited twice since I started and the last time he ate the vomit so I think he was just readjusting part of the food and it was not that much. Do you think I should go back to fromm and start over but I really hate to do that.
Craig
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