Where are all these Grand Champions coming from?

[CYJ]

A real Gr CH is far and few between. I assume without the 5X etc. by the name. The CH or GR CH title is a show dog title win. I have seen some Gr CH's and CH dogs that did not have a hair out of place. I got a kick out of G. Cumming's Dutch Boy being shown as a Gr CH on his pedigree. I doubt Dutch Boy was ever rolled much less matched. Jackie Spruill and self was never aware of Dutch Boy being matched. Grady loved to talk the talk about the dogs and sold a lot of dogs. No mention of Dutch Boy being matched. Dutch Boy was a pretty little white headed brindle dog with no scars on him that I could see.

A group in that area started a ADBA sanctioned dog show and weight pull event about that time. My Geronimo dog won best of opposite sex. G. Cummings was one of the judges. Maybe Dutch Boy obtained a GR CH from being shown at some of the later Dog shows.

Jackie Spruill had a true Gr CH that was off Cox's Spicy bitch and my Young's Geronimo dog. Somewhere along the way he became a G. Cummings bred dog. Even back when I was in the game some were turning in off the chain matches as a sanctioned win. This sort of thing probably has been going on since pit dogs were first being matched.

[FrostyPaws]

As a younger guy in dogs in the late 80s, early 90s, I'd always heard that Dutch Boy wasn't any kind of winning dog, but once the internet generation arrived, all of a sudden, he's a winning dog of 5 shows. Always interesting to see what kind of snake oil is put up next.

[EWO]

It happens more than most would like to think. Its nothing you hear and half of what you see kinda thing. The Dutch Boy dog in question was of a Beaudreaux breeding? Those are the easiest to use. A solid family from a solid family from a life timer in the dogs. He has done all the work and put in all the time. Buy one from him and his reputation can sell a lot of dogs for another. Happens a lot. Sucks but true. EWO

[evolutionkennels]

Well, tango isbtrue, patticake is true. Stp told me about tangos campaign. Patticake was all that and more, and boys went to others backyards. An old old old timer shaped patticake for number 5. Said was as good as he's ever seen.

[DLDTommy]

There are a lot of working kennels out there now but I would also have to say that for every DOGMAN, there are a hundred BULL****ters too!

However Gr Ch Tango, has quite the resume and so does Gr Ch Duke since someone mentioned the two of them!

[Eliman]

It is even harder now days to bulldog i do not look down on no man for his life style i just choose not to affiliate myself with loose cannons "career criminals". This makes it very difficult to procure a mill race i would rather be known to race once in awhile with just a hand full of winners at the end of it all. Then be known as a lier and a fake men like that lake pride or conviction it is a slap in the face to those who put there blood sweat and heart into this life.

RoughNeck