Well thought out and well spoken Ca. Jack, I too concur. You missed your calling as a Lawyer. You have a great mind for analytical reasoning. I at times can not see the tree for the forest. LOL

Carver built his yard of dogs from smaller dog yards around Texas, Mexico etc. and even Tudor himself. Many of these Dog men with smaller yards had some cream of the crop breeding stock. K. Marlowe told me and V. J. one time that M. Carver called her too get some info about her Red Boy dogs.

M. Carver was good friends with Leo Kinard and many others. One writer stated Tudor did not like Carver, Carver still made that Black Widow breeding. He brought something Tudor had a weakness for to help get the deal sealed. If a true story, was no need for Tudor to start not liking someone, after the preconceived fun was over with. LOL