Everyone has theories, ideas, and beliefs.
The people who matter have their theories, ideas, and beliefs come true ... while the people who don't, don't.
Ultimately, that is the dividing line.
Jack
Everyone has theories, ideas, and beliefs.
The people who matter have their theories, ideas, and beliefs come true ... while the people who don't, don't.
Ultimately, that is the dividing line.
Jack
I understand the quitting factor. I understand it is easy to read about situations and form an opinion. I was once at a point that said everything that would not scratch at two plus hours needed the silver pill. With that said, looking back on something that happened 20-30-40 years ago and offering up the what someone else should have done/could have done is wasteful energies. There were a bunch of W's collected later because Bullyson did not get the silver pill. Midnight Cowboy. Honeybunch. Chivo. The ability to look past the obvious is an amazing characteristic to have in one's repertoire. EWO
Originally Posted by ToTheDogs
Right!! Time will let u know if u made the right move it depends on your breeding program every one has different styles .
Like Mr WAC sd proven dogs % s shld be better and that's one of the reason's why Mr Jack made the site #s never lie. But still nothing matters but what that dog can do. And everyone does not promote lit up peds to prove success !
I agree with you both you can't change em. If you know your blood and have raised litter after litter of pups I believe that's alittle different than breeding an unproven scatter bred bitch to a male of the same caliber.So id take a chance on my program if i had to!!.. Floyd and Jerry both knew basic averages of breeding to Eli or Boze I guess but didn't know that old Eli was going to write bulldog history..There is no exact science on bulldogs or this breeding would have never been made according to text book standards... If that makes any sense....
With regards to the bashing you receive, online is the only place fools can speak freely and attack you for your way of thinking and never get off the pot themselves..I was given some very solid advice from from a guy on this very board in another fourm..His exact words were most of these guys don't know shit so don't pay em no mind wow how right he was..The bashing is a self pat on the back but how could anybody bash Floyd and not look like a clown!!! Some of us are fair game...
LOYALTY BEFORE ROYALTY !!!
Well said. Especially the internet part. At one time it was difficult task to breed, raise, school, win and Ch a bulldog. It is as easy as all get out now. A few strokes of the keyboard is like magic. LOL.
And the first part as well. Raising litter after litter within the same family of dogs gives one a lot of insight in decision making vs. 'just' breeding a bitch on her first heat. It might be better said the important aspect of breeding a bitch on her first heat is Who? and Why? vs. just looking at the smaller picture of breeding a female on the first cycle.
Just like I said in the first part the internet is like magic. A person can be the 'baddest sum-bitch' on the planet with a keyboard. Forget steroids, performance enhancing drugs, working out, commitment, effort, heart, talent and ability, that stuff is old school. Just buy a laptop. LOL. EWO
Excellent pionts EWO that complements my post thank you......
LOYALTY BEFORE ROYALTY !!!
Boundary disorder is a tough one. You can skulldrug a gyp, win 3 with her, breed her to a grand champion rom dog, raise the puppy, school him, and match into a dog that was bred out of a one year old unproven bitch and a rank cur that jumped the box..... And still get whooped. That's just the way it is. Are your dogs better? No, his dog just proved better than yours. Now in due time, if he keeps these practices, eventually, naturally, his stock won't do so well, and he'll pay the price with a loss or losses. Or maybe not. WORRY ABOUT WHAT YOU DO! WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN DOG, GO MAKE A FEW GRANDCHAMPIONS AND CHAMPIONS AND ROMS AND DOY'S. BUT TO CRITICIZE WHAT OTHERS DO APPEARS AS IF YOURE LOOKING TO MAKE YOUR SELF LOOK BETTER GIVEN YOUR OWN STANDARDS IN YOUR MIND BY MAKING SOMEBODY ELSE LOOK BAD.
I was taught by an elder dogger, that a bitch is only good for the male winners she can produce and how many brood females she can lay. Take Evo's example where you can skulldrag a bitch win 3, breed her and lose to one that comes out of inferior stock. Well that can happen but like Evo said time will show who is doing right by his stock.
Well I'll add that you can skulldrag a bitch, win 3, breed her and she could be so damn hot that she EATS all the pups.
Now there have been a lot of very great bitches, fantastic even that can't raise a litter to save her life, what good is she for the breed or your stock long term. She's good for the hunt but that's it.
That's why I don't knock a man who wants a litter off a bitch before putting her to work, just to see whether or not she's good for breeding rather than knocking her against the wall for years thinking she's going to be the next honeybunch and she produce's sh*t or eats the whole d*mn litter. It's true that a bitch that aint been worked could do the same thing, but at least you know early.
Now breeding an unproven male, I don't think that makes sense, because well there are too many proven male athletes or producers for that matter.
Just adding a thought or two.
-ADM
Well said. very accurate. EWO
What about the idea that the gyp will produce certain hormones when her life is threatened and those will add something special to her offspring?
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