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Thread: DISPUTED OR FAKE PEDS FROM THE PAST AND PRESENT .

  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxman View Post
    CYJ, Most everyone knows that' I think'. About Dibo being Runt for a while. I had a female who sure out of Runt and Dam was out of Dibo. So she was inbred on Dibo. I'm not sure why he did all the paper changing. Earl told me once if you want to be famous. Get you a good dog and put your papers on him. I didn't ever ask Earl about that Dibo=Runt deal. Maloney told me about it originally. I believe he didn't have the papers he desired so he used them. I still wonder to this day how Dibo was bred. He doesn't look like his ancestors to me but I think the last se of papers might be right, Because why would you change the first to the second set unless you thought the second was right and the first set were wrong. Project-X thinks we are straying from the subject. But proving the only pure strain comes from a guy that lies about the papers and cheats in dogfights, Is just part of the testimony breaking down Project-x' Dream. Mayfield also stole a dog from Fitzawater when after they made friends later on in life. Mayfield confessed. Just some testimony showing Mayfield isn't a God and his Earl wasn't an upstanding guy either. Earl ended up with several stolen dogs throught his life. Earl's own Brother -in-law Flo's brother shot him once. Earl had been shot five or six times. Does that sound like a God.
    Randy i never said anyone was an angel and mayfield also wasn't a choir boy, but my dream as you like to call it is based on the facts we have about blind billy and they are the same type of facts you randy like to quote in your sermons about other dogs .

    Now when i said we are straying away from the thread, it was about post's which have notihng to do with the thread like jacks one about scale rigging and mine in reply to it reply whichn is deserves its own thread otherwsie whats the point of
    threads on a particular subject, yours adding some historical breeidng stuff is fine but talk off a completly different subject
    that doesnt have anything to do with the pedigrees should have its own thread whichim sure you many ohters including myslef can add to without confusing this one .

    Now as usuall randy you want to throw your clusterbombs at folks today its tudor, with only a little at mayfield , and of course we dont know how you roll do we , i mean your a stand up living and breathing saint arent you randy , but what im saying is this, yes we all know earl said lots of stuff about learn how to cheat etc and was always trying to get an edge, no one at least not me is saying he or anyone else including mayfield didnt try what they could , but with all your knowledge about the game randy which you have and in many tihngs i think you have no axe to grind , but i have tried to put as many scenarios regarding billy into place, and unless you or anyone else can prove that dibo was bred before he got to earls yard to minnie
    and somehow billy miracoulously ended up on earls yard one year before dibo even left henzls yard id like to hear it, but not a load of what if and maybe scenarios randy actuall recorded facts like we have on both dibo and blind billy along with the floyds OWN words which i assume you not going to say hes lying are you randy , i think its a tough hole all the floyd supporters and mayfield haters are in , as floyds own words incriminate him and if hes lying about his own words that does the same, so randy lets stop trying to avoid the enevitable and admit it looks like floyd may not have been as saintly as some folks on this forum would like to have us believe randy and of course that would lead us to eli and that would lead us to MAYFIELD and that randy would break some folks hearts and collapse the house of cards that is the blind billy and eli cover up.

    Now randy before you reply with your diversion tactics like you always do, try giving the good folks here more than just
    some what if and maybe scenario and you heard this or that , what facts do you have, cos so far randy all you have done is scream as loud as you can about me and my words , but the fact is their not my words or even MYAIFELDS words randy their FLOYDS own words along with the dobs and uncontested histroical storys that we have for dibo ,and all the wanting
    to change them facts to help old floyd isnt going to change them ,and i wonddr if it was mayfield in floyds place if you would be runing around like a jack rabbit trying to find a hole to jump into to avoid the the jaws of the dog , i doubt it.

    Randy whatever your problem with mayfield is and i know were it stems from, thats fine everyone has a side , but when
    you as you always do you like to drip feed every post with negative vibes towards him , when other folks say something positive you never back that up do you andyou never counter other negative psots about mayfield, like jacks scale rigging post, which may be true but may also be untrue as i think as you know everything about this breed that it was mayfield who found out
    that another set of dogemn were rigging some scales and he put a stop to it, now im not saying that means he didnt riig scales himself , just as you or any other dogman may or may not have done soemthing who knows right, but you never counter to help mayfield you only either say negative tihngs mostly or chip in to agree with others or say nothing which considering your knwledge base i find astounding but completly in character with your modis operandai , so gang up do what you want keep telling us what so and so said and deny to yourself all you like, but its a shame that your dislike for don takes you to keep trying to cover up for floyd .

    Randy i know you take this personally , but i dont ahte you but please dont treat me like a fool ,you may get away with that with other folks , but not with me, and we can agree to have different opinions and that i can respect from any man
    just like your view on the dam to tombstone vs' my view , i dont agree but i can see how it could be true, as their is more room for other possibilties but no hard facts to really change the pedigree just words of mouth and other circumstantial evidence ,which one can make their own mind up to, but randy not with billy and the fact that you would atack me with such hate rather than stronger and more opposing facts to prove them wrong which i would respect regardless of our
    views , but you cant bring yourself to do it, to be a sportsman to say ok it looks bad but i still dont think its like that ,but i can see how it looks bad for floyd , and that would be a man who can be honest even if it hurts , and someone who can
    disagree but see your side of the argument when the arguemnt is hard to beat , but randy so far you have not been that man ,but i have , so randy i dont expect your reply to be any different to your others , but who knows its the christmas
    period and they do say miracles happen at christmas time , but all this thread should hope to achieve is getting a little nearer the truth about some famous dogs with disputed pedigrees as best as we can ,and with that randy i wish you
    and your loved ones a happy new year.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by projectx View Post
    Jack if the scales were rigged why the hell did he go on with the fight ? if he could prove the scales were fixed like mayfield proved against other dogmen then the fight would not have gone on , but thats the first i heard of mayfield rigging scales, but you get me more than hearsay jack and i will be the first one to say so not like others one here who never see facts unless its against mayfield so as they say jack show me the money, and it was mayfeild who found out about some other dogmen who HAD RIGGED SOME SCALES and put a stop to it, so maybe your man in TN just lost to the better dog that day , just like benny bob did to jimmie boots after being driven around for hours.

    PS jack most all dogmen will try to get an advantage , whether its home soil pit size driving them around a while before getting to the pit or any number of things thaat they feel may give them some small advantage, like the one you mentioned about drivng around a while , well the guys who had jimme boots did that to bennybob , drove them around for 3 hours for security as an excuse , then they find out that the motel was only 5 mins from the pit.
    Or keeping a dog hanging on the scale while checking weight is another one and if the owner of the dog allows it to happen thats their stupidty , but claiming that mayfield rigged the scales is maybe your man in TN's gut feeling maybe becasue he lost and like many men before him thought they coudlnt lose and so look for a reason why , even mayfield as mentioned on this thread by CYJ couldnt believe a female of his lost and felt sure she'd been rubbed but just lost to the better dog, but your claim jack like many needs some meat on the bones before saying it , weres the proof ? mayfield proved they were rigging the scales, randy probably knows the story of when mayfield got wise to it and put a stop to it, and its a known story of how theses dogmen rigged the scales and mayfield found them out, but weres your proof other than your mans in TN 's gut feeling .

    Of course without knowing who this TN dogman was its a little harder for anyone to check on anything and a little unfair as we mention other men so we have an idea of who they are and whether they also have any bagage to go along with their fame as dogmen, but not knowing who your talking about isnt very easy is it , or what other fights took place that night ,maybe other dogmen who were there might be able to add their 2 cents , but that would need a little more info than your providing other than some hearsay from only one side of at least two possibilties jack .
    OR, maybe, Mayfield was a fucking cheat....maybe, maybe, blah blah blah

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter Kennel View Post
    OR, maybe, Mayfield was a fucking cheat....maybe, maybe, blah blah blah
    Hey NQK still waiting for my appology, but i see that your back to hateing on me via mayfield and bringing the thread and forum into disrepute with your posts all about attacking me and mayfield for no good reason and you dont see me going onto any thread you psot and jsut saying shit towards you for the sake of it but then im a better man than you and have some honour ,you on the other hand are jsut a boy who vcant face his truth but you will, and soon trust me . Well if mayfield cheated by rigging scales its the first time i heard that ,but anytihngs possibloe, but i see you only post when you can try to put mayfield down to get at me and never add anything of worth to this threads topic.

    I dont suppose anyone else could be a cheat , nqk , i mean what about the guy from TN that your defending and you dont know whether he was a cheat or whatever you just chime in to try and put mayfield down, a man who won 84 times out of 102 matches, and an excuse for a man like you chimes in on a post, (which may be true just like the man from tn maybe a cheat right or anyone for that matter) and all you do is show yourself for the poor sorry person you are, just shows i was right all along about you, your not a man you cant even give a decent appology , well just keep your appolgy it wouldnt be worth damn coming from you anyway .

    Hell i dont think even randy who loves to stick the knife into old don would have said such a dumbass thing like you did, all your doing is showing your hate to me rather than any understanding you may have, and whether mayfield floyd tudor or anyone did or didnt cheat by rubbing or fixing scales as their reason for winning more than they lost then their peers of which neither you nor i are one have been the judge of that, and you are one sorry sad person who out of hate for me becasue i told you something you didnt want to hear and thats all i did , you are now are on a selfdestructive campaign to attack me which is only showing you up as somebody with nothing of value to say on anything and your showing yourself up as a joke
    with posts like that ,your so obvious its unreal, if you want to start a thread on cheating start one but do some damn research before you engage your mouth i find it normally helps .

    NQK maybe hammonds is a cheat maybe? maybe your a cheat maybe?maybe were all cheats maybe? get a brain my feeble minded friend or see a doctor or better still try researching something for yourself for a change.

    Now if you want to vent ,do it on pms , dont ruin the thread if you have to hate at least pretend by making a post aobut sometihng other than attacking me via mayfield or me directly and keep it to pms that way this thread can be of use to the folks that may want
    to try to add something constructive other than an outpouring of bile ,take care and have a happy new year .

  4. #144
    u dont have facts u have earls word of dibos birth which could very well b a lie

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by bolero View Post
    u dont have facts u have earls word of dibos birth which could very well b a lie
    Bolero then lets do this lets say everyone including you and me are a lair's and not take any historical or actuall words from anyone ever and start over again shall we.And if you can say why should we take earls or the men who bred dibos word for it, and all and any other timeline evidence we have and decide to not accept it, then why cant you say that about floyds words bolero? words that actually dont add up but you like others only want to doubt one side the side with a believable timeline over one that doesnt ,and if your not being onesided how come you have never once said that, maybe its floyd who is wrong rather than the overwhellming evidence before you, so i find it telling as to your motives for this denial..

    Of course we dont want to do that, and we dont have just earls word for anytihng, we have a lot of words from floyd himslef, plus we have the actuall adba pedigrrees and probably the ukc pedigrees for dibo and billy and lets not forget all the other hearsay and circumstantial evidence while not being direct proof certainley adds to the facts we do have and
    they show it to be a very unlikley that billy was sired by dibo, and bolero if you can find more actuall factual evidence other than what ifs and maybe's then im all ears and would welcome it with open arms, have a happy new year.

  6. #146
    ENOUGH ALREADY. You are obsessed with this. The FACTS are Mayfield was not a good breeder peroid, if he were then he would have used Tombstone and Eli in his program he chose not to. Its sad now to watch you repeat the same thing over and over again, it seems that you hang onto every word Mayfield said. Like many have said what does it matter now? Just stop you are making yourself look crazy, whats done is done. Yis Ole Man

  7. #147
    Project-X How old are you? Have you ever seen a real dogfight? Have you ever met a real dogfighter? Why is it so important for you to believe these rumors you keep saying? Did you know this stuff has been hashed and rehashed for years with no ending? Are you handicapped and secluded in one place and have no life? What country,state,town are you from. Do you have a College Degree? Do you have any Mayfield dogs? If so have you tested them? I saw Nigger quit. His name was Black Shine when he quit. Does that bother you? A.B. Forsaythe owned him at that time. He changed hands 6 or 7 times. He was used as a roll dog and bred three times that I know of when A.B. had him. A.B. made a deal with Jim Williams to help him get him. Jim Williams went to Earls and got a Dibo female and Black Shine. A.B. traded Dusky Jr. who was a bad hard dog for those two dogs to Jim to be delivered to A.B. Forsythe. Those two that A.B. Forsythe got were bred together and all of the pups quit. I got a male out of Black Shine and a daughter to Forsythes Jeanie and Forsythe's Dusky dog. His name was Crazy and he was a good dog. He whipped two top bred dogs but was plagued with red mange. I wish he was born today. I can cure that stuff now. His dam's mother died in a fight against Colorado. She was a game dog. All of Crazy's full brothers and sisters out of Nigger (Black Shine) quit. Blackshine (Nigger) also was bred to Forsythe's Jeanie. One of them was kept as a stud dog but the rest quit. Mayfield had several that were good game dogs. I'm guessing he bred up 10 that were top winning dogs. That is a poor average if you count all he bred. Kind of like the man said in the movie. Project-X 'Do you like apples? Well how about them apples? Please answer some of my questions. Randy Fox

  8. #148


    Ya know ... I am tempted to close this thread, because of the insanity of the digression, but occasionally some gems do come out of it ... as with the post above ... so I will leave it up for now.

    Cheers,

    Jack

  9. #149
    Yea when someone beside s Project X posts lol.

  10. #150
    LOL, yep.

    Gotta give him credit for being game though

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