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  1. #21
    As i said before. This is merly one persons opinion, it wont be fair or objective. I'm not one to argue though. I'm just a hobby dogman, i do travel but not to the other side of the world. I'm not even in the same leauge as those dogmen.

  2. #22
    Nut
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    i was referring to the author or should i call it editor? of the sporting dog journal. this thread is about DOY.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Nut View Post
    i was referring to the author or should i call it editor? of the sporting dog journal. this thread is about DOY.
    Okay, fine, glad you clarified.

    There is a big difference between an author and an editor, and the way you worded it made it seem like I (as an author) can't get the gist of what's what out there ... and so I should bring a dog and "prove him wrong."

    I don't know who the editor of the SDJ is, and whether he personally has ever shown or bred a top-shelf dog, but I damned sure have.

    Proper wording is helpful to avoid misunderstandings

    I will remove my disparaging remarks,

    Jack

  4. #24
    Nut
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    Aha, i didn't know.

    What i mean beating a dog with xx numbers of wins doesn't necessarily mean something. It's hard to get specific information about the opponents of all candidates for the EDITOR of the journal. Even eyewitnesses will come with divided judgments. So there will always be people who don't agree with his choosing. End of the day good dogs don't need recognition in a magazine for "recognition"

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Nut View Post
    Aha, i didn't know.

    What i mean beating a dog with xx numbers of wins doesn't necessarily mean something. It's hard to get specific information about the opponents of all candidates for the EDITOR of the journal. Even eyewitnesses will come with divided judgments. So there will always be people who don't agree with his choosing. End of the day good dogs don't need recognition in a magazine for "recognition"

    I understand what you mean, which is why I personally have never worried about the titles of Ch, Gr Ch, etc., as I have produced no telling how many dogs off of no-name parents that have beaten the offspring of "titled" dogs, so I agree these titles mean nothing ultimately.

    Still, we all are proud of our own titled dogs and it is always interesting to compare them and discuss the criteria used for comparison. Again, I admit I am out of the loop these days, but still wondered what criteria is being used to put a Champion who beat a Champion over a Grand Champion who beat two

    Jack

  6. #26
    It is what it is in the end. A silly title makes no difference because regardless of who gets it there will always be someone who disagrees , a great one is a great and a dog cant read its something for mens ego's as we all have one to a point. Congrats to the winner. Yis Ole Man

  7. #27
    Well the biggest thing is simple, not many people report to any Mag especially folks who might not have the liberty as others to talk about much. The International SDJ is typically filled with stories from Chosen Few, so folks will say they are always in it and they always win DOY. I thought Homer Balboa had won it one year or they gave Vengeance the title one year but guess Chosen Few have won it a few times. At the same time, I know of several Chs & GrChs who might be deserving but never were reported to the magazine. I think the editor of that SDJ also mentioned that several were not entered. By saying Titere deserves it doesnt mean it's a knock on Siega just folks speaking up for their choice. Remember Siega might of only beat 1 Ch but she beat a Ch that was highly regarded by several countrymen from around the globe so I'm guess that's what got her the nod. Also folks will knock Titere for beating a dog that already quit before but also came up in weight to get Titere. Folks will also say he was hooked for Balboa but camp paid forfeit. Now granted he trying to get Balboa now but just saying folks can start slicing pies several different ways. Instead of automatically knocking a dog folks can still give congrats and show support for their dog. Doesnt always have to be negative and whether he is DOY or runner up or any of that it still it don't take nothing away from Titere who is a great dog.

  8. #28
    The forfiet was paid for personal reasons, Balboa camp also paid a forfiet too. As for Omar they came a calling for Tietre and Omar DOA'd the one who lost to. Tietre last was one was into Bulldog, but like you said everyone is not going to agree a very dog one got it and thats a fact. Yis Ole Man

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by ragedog10 View Post
    It is what it is in the end. A silly title makes no difference because regardless of who gets it there will always be someone who disagrees , a great one is a great and a dog cant read its something for mens ego's as we all have one to a point. Congrats to the winner. Yis Ole Man

    yea all that is true but we still all wanna know, lol

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyRed View Post
    Well the biggest thing is simple, not many people report to any Mag especially folks who might not have the liberty as others to talk about much. The International SDJ is typically filled with stories from Chosen Few, so folks will say they are always in it and they always win DOY. I thought Homer Balboa had won it one year or they gave Vengeance the title one year but guess Chosen Few have won it a few times. At the same time, I know of several Chs & GrChs who might be deserving but never were reported to the magazine. I think the editor of that SDJ also mentioned that several were not entered. By saying Titere deserves it doesnt mean it's a knock on Siega just folks speaking up for their choice. Remember Siega might of only beat 1 Ch but she beat a Ch that was highly regarded by several countrymen from around the globe so I'm guess that's what got her the nod. Also folks will knock Titere for beating a dog that already quit before but also came up in weight to get Titere. Folks will also say he was hooked for Balboa but camp paid forfeit. Now granted he trying to get Balboa now but just saying folks can start slicing pies several different ways. Instead of automatically knocking a dog folks can still give congrats and show support for their dog. Doesnt always have to be negative and whether he is DOY or runner up or any of that it still it don't take nothing away from Titere who is a great dog.
    And just to let it be known grch Titere had been on grch balboa boots since number two and was told to go get a title! Wanted balboa for his championship! I think they are both great representation of every dog man's dream!

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