man that was a very very good read thx.
man that was a very very good read thx.
Thank you--and you're welcome. Cheers.
And, once again confirming my theory, it's amazing how much Patrick's Cheryl Tiegs and Vise-Grip's Missy look alike
When considering Ch Hammer and Tessy are brother/sister ... and if you further consider that Miss Trinx was 3/4 Lady In Red (a daughter of Little Tater) ... their pedigrees are basically identical ... mirror "flips" of each other.
And, if you look at the dogs themselves, they could be twins
Missy was only 16 months in her photo (and Tiegi is an old lady in hers), but I have photos of Missy in her later years and the two bitches are virtual clones of each other
Jack
This is how they're each papered by the ADBA:
This is how they're actually bred:
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Said it before, missy was an awesome looker.
Thank you.
She was my favorite and still the hardest scratcher and hardest mouthed female I've ever had ...
Genetics are a crazy thing. I was at one of the better yards in Texas about a couple of weeks ago and there was a true old timer of the dogs there who saw a dog and remarked how she herself was a clone of a dog that died 20 years ago. Same blood and incredible consistency. Same thing with you pictures of Missy there.
Jack, if can or will share, I'd love to know where some of that exact kind of gene pool is available right now. Its got such a similar base and blend to the Tonka Red Baron dogs and the Red Rock/Meathead dogs as well. I would be interested to know where it's at, ESPECIALLY if there's some real close, as in Texas area.
I'm going to have to learn to post pictures and crap like that here.
As those of you who have been here for awhile, or have followed some of what I have written on Jack's former boards now for many years know, I have always said it takes 4-5 generations for traits to manifest themselves anew, giving credence to what NQK posted about the throwback and the old timer. The problem is that very few fanciers work with a family long enough to know what in the hell they are talking about 4-5 generations later, or 20-30 years ago. Too many ballers out there looking for the killer to take out to the fast lane.
So, let me take you boys and girls back to 1991.. This is my late kennel partner The Pope as a young man with our Molly bitch, a direct daughter of Reuben ROM x Billy Jo (CH Bad Billy x Kudo, who is CH Bad Billy x Carver's Tiny). This is the only photo of Molly in existence. I am sorry it is old, black and white, and not the best pose. However, I believe even with these things working against us here, one can see the uncanny resemblance to Missy and Tiegs in head shape and color.
Now, with all of this context, let's revisit the Queen of Hearts potential if Bobby Jr. is really sired by Reuben as suspected. How does the Queen stack up physically to these females if they are her realatives, and remember the Queen has Boomerang on the bottom just like Tiegs, and remember that CH Bad Billy behind our Molly is also a Boomerang grandson, so we are dealing not only with the Reuben blood in common, but also the other dogs in the periphery with the Boomerang blood.
Queen of Hearts
To me, this is the greatest "sign" of a bloodline, is consistency. No doubt.Originally Posted by No Quarter Kennel
There is a member here Redrum who has a dog named Ice Storm who is heavy Poncho, and showing to be a great dog and producer, and is in your area.
LOL, it's all there in the video tutorials
Jack
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