new line

[swampdawg]

Sorry, Mr. Burns is absolutely wrong. He is confusing a smart cur for a smart game dog ...

Smart, game dogs are the way to go ... because they figure out a way TO WIN, not quit

Anyone who doesn't believe intelligence is an asset is an idiot himself.
I love people who think like that, because they lose to my dogs every time ...

My dogs have smashed so many one-dimensional, (supposedly-) game, super-aggressive dogs it's almost a proverb.

Word

Jack

He was old school jack.he never altered anything.he used to feed the same amount of feed from the same scoop regardless if the dog was 30lbs or 60lbs.i used to help feed them sometimes and give the thinner dogs 2 scoops of feed and he would give me a look and I knew he didnt like that but he never said anything about it.

[Tarheel]

I got to see Jocko and Argo perform. Jocko got bred a lot more but I really liked the Argo dog. Argo was a very well built dog and a beautiful red color with black nose and black eyes.

Argo was a favorite along with Jocko, with Scotty McNeil. Scotty saw Argo's last match which was a very hard pulling dog show. Both dogs looked so much a like was hard to tell who was doing who.

This was just Scotty's opinion since I was not there to judge for myself. He told me he felt the old warrior was not brought in at his best condition. Was another gambling sacrifice similar to what happen to Ozzie's Homer dog. Still both dogs were great dogs and went the distance. One had to lose and one to win. Thrift's Bumper was a great pit dog in it's own right. Cheers

I agree Johnny...I thought Argo was a much better dog...but Bumper was too much that day. I wish those dogs had been bred to some other lines...I know it clicked with Red Boy but I certainly would have loved to get bred to some of my old stock....I should have bred to that Joker dog at Sonny's If I could do it all again...

[Officially Retired]

He was old school jack.he never altered anything.he used to feed the same amount of feed from the same scoop regardless if the dog was 30lbs or 60lbs.i used to help feed them sometimes and give the thinner dogs 2 scoops of feed and he would give me a look and I knew he didnt like that but he never said anything about it.

You're being polite using the word "old school" on someone who doesn't have the sense to feed different-sized dogs different amounts of food ... IMO different terminology for this would be more accurate ... but it only confirms my impression.

I realize there is a lot of "general respect" for some of these old-timers, so I will leave it at that, but I've met enough of them to realize that many really just got famous cause they got their hands on some good dogs.

Jack

[swampdawg]

Crazyred,its still around and available if you know the right people to get it from.Most people I know wont let any go.

[waccamaw]

Sorry, Mr. Burns is absolutely wrong. He is confusing a smart cur for a smart game dog ...

Smart, game dogs are the way to go ... because they figure out a way TO WIN, not quit

Anyone who doesn't believe intelligence is an asset is an idiot himself.
I love people who think like that, because they lose to my dogs every time ...

My dogs have smashed so many one-dimensional, (supposedly-) game, super-aggressive dogs it's almost a proverb.

Word

Jack

It is not that he was saying the dogs were stupid and couldn't figure a hog out ,what he was meaning ( if one was to smart ) he would figure away to get out of harms way .everybody has their on beliefs on a game dog .i personally think a lot of gameness comes from health and conditioning as much as up to 80%. Mr burns did have a good eye .kinda miss the ole man .

[Officially Retired]

It is not that he was saying the dogs were stupid and couldn't figure a hog out ,what he was meaning ( if one was to smart ) he would figure away to get out of harms way .

Figuring how to get out of harm's way is a good thing, so long as they're also figuring out how to win.

A dog that doesn't have the sense NOT to get hurt will lose to a world class dog that knows how to hurt him.

everybody has their on beliefs on a game dog .i personally think a lot of gameness comes from health and conditioning as much as up to 80%. Mr burns did have a good eye .kinda miss the ole man .

True, and good point.

[MRBLUEPRINT]

You're being polite using the word "old school" on someone who doesn't have the sense to feed different-sized dogs different amounts of food ... IMO different terminology for this would be more accurate ... but it only confirms my impression.

I realize there is a lot of "general respect" for some of these old-timers, so I will leave it at that, but I've met enough of them to realize that many really just got famous cause they got their hands on some good dogs.

Jack

I agree with that. There's a local man around here that was asked to hold some pretty decent hounds for a man that was having trouble with AC back a few years ago. He had a lot of people fooled into thinking he had many many years in the hounds just by having these hounds that belonged to another man. It did work in his favor though, after a couple years he started meeting the right people and making a name for himself. I can't say he made a good name for himself locally but,...he did make a name for himself. I think it had a lot to do with that one statement that you just made...Hopefully you won't mind me quoting you

I realize there is a lot of "general respect" for some of these old-timers.

In his case it wasn't so much he was an old timer in the same sense as people say Mt.Man was an old timer, he was just a much older guy so...It was a lot easier for him to convince a lot of the people he met into believing he was an "old timer". In turn they seemed to respect him.

Now, I can't say I agree with Mr.Burns and his dumb/intelligent theory. I've never fed a hound that came off his yard and I don't think I've had one with his name in it.

[stopem]

Well i dont think he would've liked my dogs cause sho nuf will hurt rabbits, squuirels, deer, etc... he can open doors and he will seat in a front seat of a truck like he human. hallie berry is super box smart and will not get hurt and lil mighty knows how to finish a hog quick. i've seen the ones that get beat down and still think that they are winning but not these which is why im going to do some breeding with them.

[swampdawg]

Never said I didnt like them,just dont think there the smartest ive ever seen.MrB was like a father to me, but he fed his dogs and I didnt question his actions.There rugged,durable and can take probably more than most will ever take before stopping.I still feed a few.

[Officially Retired]

in 3 years i'm going to be starting a line of dogs. i've noticed that not too many people talk about burns dogs anymore. well i have some pure burns dogs and some that are crossed out with some raw hide dogs. they are some good all around dogs. give me some time and i think they will be something to talk about in the future.Attachment 477Attachment 478Attachment 479

Lines are always based on individuals, not "human names."

Whether you linebreed on a particular dog from Burns ... or from a particular dog (or dogs) that you have, pure or mixed," to establish a line means (literally) to LINEbreed on some dog (or dogs).

For instance, I linebred on Poncho.
David Tant linebred on Yellow.
Boyles linebred on Dirty Mary.

Some key dog needs to stand out in your mind, as truly superior, and then you will want to start breeding this dog ... and then forming breeding patterns around that dog ... either by breeding that dog back to his daughters, his mother, or breeding his sons/daughters together, etc.

However, you want to be selective as to the traits these dogs have ... you want to maintain the traits of that key dog (not just his name) ... and I know you know what I mean

Here is an indepth article I wrote on The Art of Breeding Dogs ... it's long, but it's worth the read.

Jack