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  1. #11
    I think it was called sure grow 100. If I'm correct
    Nice looking pup you have

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by loot View Post
    I think it was called sure grow 100. If I'm correct
    Nice looking pup you have
    Thanks! Besides the twisted paws she is an amazing animal and I love her very much!

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Pit Bull Committed View Post
    Before she was on raw diet @4 month old. Just to rule out genetic defect.
    You cant rule out a genetic defect because this defect can happen at any point while the dog is still growing. They dont have to be born with it.
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  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by scratchin dog View Post
    You cant rule out a genetic defect because this defect can happen at any point while the dog is still growing. They dont have to be born with it.
    You're right. Genetic defect can't be ruled out completely. I guess I just have a strong feeling it's not genetic defect. Both the sire and dam don't have twisted paws. Also I posted not too long ago the littermate brother to this female who I also was feeding raw and his legs became crooked but instead of to the right or left it was crooked forward making the paws very flat. My friend decided he wanted to keep that male puppy and took him back. The male puppy was put on kibbles and his paws are now straight again. This is why I'm concluding that I'm doing something wrong with the raw feeding. Even though I'm providing all the stuff Jack suggested in his videos maybe I'm giving too much of something or not enough of something.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Nut View Post
    it has nothing to do with your feed. if you provided everything that jack had suggested then he must have had allot of dogs with twisted paws. i agree with scratchin dog
    This is true.

    One of the traits my dogs are actually known for is AWESOME, STURDY paws, feet, very "tight" and well-formed.

    I have always noticed sloppy paws/feet in many other bloodlines ... not just east/west feet ... but splayed toes, etc.

    Like anyone, I may get an occasional splayed toes, but never feet that look like that.

    This is the dog I have now ... and I have posted thousands of photos in the past ...



    A person can do a search Vise-Grip as the breeder and take a long look at a lot of raw-fed dogs of mine that do NOT have this problem.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Pit Bull Committed View Post
    You're right. Genetic defect can't be ruled out completely. I guess I just have a strong feeling it's not genetic defect. Both the sire and dam don't have twisted paws. Also I posted not too long ago the littermate brother to this female who I also was feeding raw and his legs became crooked but instead of to the right or left it was crooked forward making the paws very flat. My friend decided he wanted to keep that male puppy and took him back. The male puppy was put on kibbles and his paws are now straight again. This is why I'm concluding that I'm doing something wrong with the raw feeding. Even though I'm providing all the stuff Jack suggested in his videos maybe I'm giving too much of something or not enough of something.

    I have a strong feeling it is genetic.

    I haven't seen the sire/dam to your dog, but most dogs are NOT very athletic IMO.

    I don't like the stances and structure of most dogs, quite frankly: they're slow, sloppy palookas next to mine generally ... heavy on their feet while mine are light on theirs ... so and I am very particular about "feet" ... and believe me when I tell you my dogs do not have any problems in that regard.

    No disrespect to you, no disrespect to your pup, but that is NOT being caused by a nutritional deficiency.

    Your pup is actually a little fat IMO, but as to what's causing those "caved-in" front paws ... it may be overfeeding, it may be an awkward growth spurt, it may be a genetic defect ... but it is not being cause by eating the exact diet I have fed to literally HUNDREDS of pups without a problem.

    Jack

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    I have a strong feeling it is genetic.

    I haven't seen the sire/dam to your dog, but most dogs are NOT very athletic IMO.

    I don't like the stances and structure of most dogs, quite frankly: they're slow, sloppy palookas next to mine generally ... heavy on their feet while mine are light on theirs ... so and I am very particular about "feet" ... and believe me when I tell you my dogs do not have any problems in that regard.

    No disrespect to you, no disrespect to your pup, but that is NOT being caused by a nutritional deficiency.

    Your pup is actually a little fat IMO, but as to what's causing those "caved-in" front paws ... it may be overfeeding, it may be an awkward growth spurt, it may be a genetic defect ... but it is not being cause by eating the exact diet I have fed to literally HUNDREDS of pups without a problem.

    Jack
    Thanks for your input Jack. I really appreciate it. I was thinking maybe I'm over feeding her too. I still strongly don't think it's a genetic defect because her sire and dam including all her litter mates has straight paws. She too has straight paws when I first got her. I believe I over fed her. I'll cut down on her food and see if that helps. Thanks again.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    This is true.

    One of the traits my dogs are actually known for is AWESOME, STURDY paws, feet, very "tight" and well-formed.

    I have always noticed sloppy paws/feet in many other bloodlines ... not just east/west feet ... but splayed toes, etc.

    Like anyone, I may get an occasional splayed toes, but never feet that look like that.

    This is the dog I have now ... and I have posted thousands of photos in the past ...



    A person can do a search Vise-Grip as the breeder and take a long look at a lot of raw-fed dogs of mine that do NOT have this problem.
    Thanks for sharing Jack! Your dog there looks awesome! I agree with you that particular bloodlines has better feet structure than others. I guess the bloodline I have here are more prone to feet/paws structure deformity if not fed correctly plus proper care and housing. I am still quite new with dogs and I guess I still have a lot to see and learn in the future. Thanks everyone!

  9. #19
    That’s a very nice pup.

    Some excellent suggestions on here. All I can add is maybe try giving her some Vitamin D which is very good for their bones, it might help and certainly can’t hurt. We all need Vitamin D, and in winter when there is so much less sun light, it is a helpful supplement for pups, and for people too.

    Another source of calcium is ground up egg shells. But if she’s eating chicken quarters, she is getting enough calcium from those bones.

    If her paws are straighter on kibble, would it help to feed her kibble for one of her meals?
    Common sense isn't so common these days.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by SGC View Post
    That’s a very nice pup.

    Some excellent suggestions on here. All I can add is maybe try giving her some Vitamin D which is very good for their bones, it might help and certainly can’t hurt. We all need Vitamin D, and in winter when there is so much less sun light, it is a helpful supplement for pups, and for people too.

    Another source of calcium is ground up egg shells. But if she’s eating chicken quarters, she is getting enough calcium from those bones.

    If her paws are straighter on kibble, would it help to feed her kibble for one of her meals?
    Thanks for your input. I'm going to keep her on kibbles for a while and reduce the amount of feed I'm giving her. Hopefully the weather warms up too so she doesn't need to be as thick.

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