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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by AmberLamps View Post
    Can't believe I need to explain this, but here goes. Read it s.l.o.w.l.y Jack so you don't get the wrong end of the stick ... again!

    The 51 second video Bently posted cuts off before you can be heard saying it is a temporary chain spot for Poncho. That's why I posted the video and said skip to 9.22 where you can be heard (clear as day) saying it's only a temporary chain spot.

    Ok? We friends again?

    In regards to the Silverback dogs; that was a question to Bently as he stated he knew someone who was giving some away ... I wouldn't part with mine.
    yup, Jack read it wrong.

  2. #42
    Sorry about that Amber, my bad.

    I turn around for a day and all hell breaks loose, and I was pissed and mistook what you did for something else.

    I didn't think you'd part with yours.

    Jack

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Pit Bull Committed View Post
    yup, Jack read it wrong.
    Yep, guilty as charged.

    Just woke up, no coffee, and the first thing I do is see a bunch of shit from Bently ... and mistook what AmberLamps said, so my bad.

    Better now, onto the second cup of coffee, and yes AmberLamps, we're still friends and sorry about my mistake.

    Even the friendliest bulldogs will nip those closest to them if they get geeked-up

  4. #44
    No probs Jack.

    Still curious to who's parting with those dogs though? Care to let us know Bently?

  5. #45

    Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    When the hell did i say i was putting a pup into a keep?
    Your original post did, retard:

    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    what will you do with a dog that cant work; in other words you cant put him into any shape. he can race but cant be conditioned

    That's your original question asking about how to work/condition your fucked-up pup, right?



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    and since u take it their jack WE ALL REMEMBER PONCHO IN THAT SHIT SETUP WITH THAT DIRTY ASS TRANSPORTATION CRATE. and then u critisize my settup because you said it had a "large hole in the opening" and "bricks on the side to keep it stable" gtf out of here jack. HOW BIG WAS THAT OPENING OF PONCHO CRATE AND WT ABOUT HIS BRICKS ON THE SIDE OF HIS SHT CRATE. LETS ALL REMEMMBER WHERE WE CAME FROM
    That video of Poncho was of when he was dying of cancer, retard. If you had a brain, and would listen to what was being said, it directly states "This isn't his chain spot."

    It's called a temporary chain spot, genius. Because even a house dog needs SUN ... and a place to empty ... and that was his temp chain spot to get it. Very simple.

    Again, if you actually would listen to the video, it directly states my dying dog was a HOUSE DOG and slept in my bed. And, if you could understand English, you'd know that.

    Is there anything else you can fuck up and get wrong today?



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    "My dogs Get the best feed possible, walked daily, and no dogs are in crates unless they are injured ""
    Define "the best feed possible."



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    I can post a pic of him right now and who wont be able to see any visible scars dumb ass.
    That makes no sense.



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    U go on and on ranting about conditions and shit you have no control over. U think that because u took many ideas from other people and pasted them on a paper and made a book that you are this ultimate "breeder",
    You're right, I have no control over your shitty habits and conditions.

    But no, you're wrong on the second part. I have my own ideas, and put them to paper better than any other APBT author before me. Yet that's not what made me think I was "the ultimate breeder."

    I never said I was "the ultimate breeder" ... but what made me think I was a better breeder than 90% of anyone who ever bred dogs in the history of the game is my 87% win record over every other breeder's shit in the game ... the fact I did this with a bloodline I created myself ... and the fact that this all stemmed from an unbroken string of MY breedings dating back to the first 2 dogs I bred together ... proving my ability to keep the quality alive in EVERY GENERATION ... which is something less that 00000000001% of any breeder can say of that they're doing. That's what makes me think I was a pretty darned good breeder. And a helluva lot more successful at it than you.




    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    or christ you wasnt shit as a competitor, yes poncho thorugh a pretty good percentage and his offspring did decent, HOW MANY DID YOU ACTUALY CAMPAIGN YOUR DAMN SELF?
    I only had 4 fights as a competitor, true.
    1 win, 2 game losses, and 1 quit (c/h by someone else).
    All against 20+ year veterans when I had less than 3 years experience myself.

    And, as a producer, Poncho didn't throw "a pretty good percentage" ... he threw one of the best % win/loss records of any dog of his time. Period.

    But this has nothing to do with anything, so let's see if we can get back to your question as to whether you can work/condition a 6 month old dog that can't walk and just got in a kennel fight.

    You and your "high standards"

    Jack

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    and man i am usually cool on this board, i dont crtitize no one or there dogs, because you u never know another mans situation.on this flip side, jack always has this urge to crtitise someone or something if it isnt the way he does it or wants it to be. I mean how dare you critisize me as a dog man and my dogs. I mean lets all rememeber where we all came from "JACK".
    I try to be cool too.

    The trouble is when people do/say shit that is so obviously crazy, dumb, that there has to be something more than a mere "discussion" ... there has to be a boot in the ass along with it.

    You've got a fucked up dog. Who couldn't make it to his first birthday without being in a kennel wreck. Who can't walk around the block without falling over.

    And, you're asking about "working him" (to match, by all you've said) before he can even walk a straight line and not need to "lie down."

    And then you talk about your "high standards" ...

    If you can't see THE IRONY of it all, then you're as BLIND to reality as you are DEAF as to what was clearly stated in that video.

    If you posted this in the Canine Health forums, seeking therapy for your dogs' well being it would probably have been better received.

    That said, I could have been more respectful myself ... even though reading stuff like that makes no sense to me.



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    With all due respect he is very smart and always can provide help in just about any situation but why always critisize someone because it isnt the way you want it to be.
    Yes, I am very smart and helpful in just about any situation, true. I make mistakes and say things perhaps I shouldn't also.

    But as far as criticism goes, I don't always criticize people. Believe this or not, sometimes I tip my hat to people ... people who actually do things intelligently and correctly

    So don't put completely stupid shit up here and expect a buncha "atta-boys!", because it won't happen.



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    Worry bout your own hounds not others, i mean i can care less about the other mans dogs, long as i know my dogs are ok. I apologize for the bad charecter but he really pissed me off that time.
    I will worry about whatever gets posted here, which is MY world ... a bulldog world designed to exchange GOOD advice/practices habits, not shitty ones.

    And I too apologize for my own lack of character and self-restraint, because reading stupid shit really pisses me off too, but I shouldn't let it get to me and should learn how to discuss things more civilly.

    So credit to CYJ for being a voice of reason ...

    Jack

  7. #47
    I am not putting a damn pup in a keep. If u go back you will see that I said "walking in general" . Now when he is an adult and if he still has this defect problem and it doesn't get worser then comes the question of should I keep him or not.

    The best feed possible I feed my dogs isn't even worth mention because like we all know that if it isn't you "premium raw diet"then it's impossible to be the best feed.

    Yard accidents happen, just that simple. As far as how it happened I won't discuss it. U act like u never had a yard accident . Let's all remember what screamer did to


    Point blank. You are a breeder I am a competitor. You have a breeders mentality I have a competitor mentality. U like to breed dogs I like to compete dogs. U say u went into vets. I went into almost the best comp there is nowadays , and in many cases won. BST, K&Q , GB, LC, T2T, Size Up, Hargroves, just to name a few.

    Now u can say whT u want because everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am done posting

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    I am not putting a damn pup in a keep. If u go back you will see that I said "walking in general" . Now when he is an adult and if he still has this defect problem and it doesn't get worser then comes the question of should I keep him or not.
    Okay, fair enough. But you were already talking about matching him based on "what you saw" in a kennel mishap.

    Anyway, giving every dog a FAIR chance is a great thing ... let's just leave it at that.



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    The best feed possible I feed my dogs isn't even worth mention because like we all know that if it isn't you "premium raw diet"then it's impossible to be the best feed.
    That is actually correct: if you're not feeding a premium raw diet, your NOT feeding "the best feed possible."

    It is scientifically impossible for dry, brown pellets to offer "the best nutrition" ...




    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    Yard accidents happen, just that simple. As far as how it happened I won't discuss it. U act like u never had a yard accident . Let's all remember what screamer did to
    Yard accidents happen mostly because of lousy setups, but in some cases they happen in moments of bad timing/judgement calls.

    In 24 years breeding dogs, I can count the number of yard accidents I've had on one hand ... and have 1 finger left over.



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    Point blank. You are a breeder I am a competitor. You have a breeders mentality I have a competitor mentality. U like to breed dogs I like to compete dogs. U say u went into vets. I went into almost the best comp there is nowadays , and in many cases won. BST, K&Q , GB, LC, T2T, Size Up, Hargroves, just to name a few.
    Breeders and competitors don't necessarily have to believe differently ... and patience, good food, and good practices benefit both equally ... while their opposite hurt both equally.



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    Now u can say whT u want because everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am done posting
    That's fine. You can say what you want too ... within reason.

    I understand you were pissed, so was I. It happens.

    If you're really trying to give this pup a chance, and find out the best ways to recover him, then hats off to you.

    It was just hard for me to see that through the fog of his being malformed, in a kennel accident already, and being talked about like a match dog before he's even matured out and recovered.

    Jack

  9. #49
    If u really wanna give him a shot, put him on a chain so he can get all the sunlight he needs switch over to the raw diet as it will have him looking 10 x's better. Now when he matures if he doesnt get better you wasted alot of time and money, i would really give it deep thought and go from there with the best intrest of the dog in mind. Best of Luck Ole Man

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by ragedog10 View Post
    If u really wanna give him a shot, put him on a chain so he can get all the sunlight he needs switch over to the raw diet as it will have him looking 10 x's better. Now when he matures if he doesnt get better you wasted alot of time and money, i would really give it deep thought and go from there with the best intrest of the dog in mind. Best of Luck Ole Man
    i have put him on the raw diet of ( chicken quater, greens, rice, and cottage cheese with multi vitamins), which he has been on for about 2 weeks. the others are on kibble , i just a pain thawing out chicken quaters every morning. i use the cottahe chesse for his bones and joints instead of kefir

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