$5000 to Race???

[TownBizz]

I know good people that ur not getting them into the box for less then $10 on it on first time out hounds. I dont think 5k is to much or ducking if that is what that person can afford to bet then its not to much. Ill give a scenerio of what i think is ducking. Two ch. both the same wieght one side calls out say 20k and thats all they can cover, the other side says well we want 25k or 30k. To me thats ducking when u get into that type of money and u dont do that because of 5 or 10k to me thats curring out! On another note money has no bearing on the caliber of hounds one may own cause ive seen really good ones go for 1k and ones i wouldnt take out for 1 let alonne 10 or 15k. If u love these hounds and how they perform then all u need is a bag of dog food for good compition. if u have money then it's better for the crowd if u know what i mean and there r dogmen who lost there lives over those big money crowds.

Totally agree! And the same can be said if one side can only cover $1000...but the other side throws the $5000!

[red dog]

It really depends on who's doing the betting, as different people have different-sized wallets.
$5,000 is a lot of money to "a working man," but to a self-made millionaire running a successful business $5K might seem like five cents and not be worth his time.
Unfortunately, many drug dealers have a lot of money too, but what they don't have (usually) is good sense nor do they usually run in good crowds. By engaging in high $$ deals with such crowds, you are potentially setting yourself up for some unwanted problems/attention by having large $$$ matches in cheap company like that.
On the other hand, there really are some highly-successful gentlemen in these dogs, and if you're doing large $$ deals with them, you usually won't have to worry about shenanigans.
So there are a lot of variables involved,
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Jack You said it all there . there's nothing worse than somebody else's heat !!


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[Hurstmob]

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[H.B.K.]

I know good people that ur not getting them into the box for less then $10 on it on first time out hounds. I dont think 5k is to much or ducking if that is what that person can afford to bet then its not to much. Ill give a scenerio of what i think is ducking. Two ch. both the same wieght one side calls out say 20k and thats all they can cover, the other side says well we want 25k or 30k. To me thats ducking when u get into that type of money and u dont do that because of 5 or 10k to me thats curring out! On another note money has no bearing on the caliber of hounds one may own cause ive seen really good ones go for 1k and ones i wouldnt take out for 1 let alonne 10 or 15k. If u love these hounds and how they perform then all u need is a bag of dog food for good compition. if u have money then it's better for the crowd if u know what i mean and there r dogmen who lost there lives over those big money crowds.

Totally agree! And the same can be said if one side can only cover $1000...but the other side throws the $5000!

Yeah but u have o understand that there is a lot of work and time and money that goes into putting one in great shape and it's hard to find someone who is willing or wants to do all that for a 1000. And if someone is calling someone out for 1000 and the other side says 5000 thats not running to me. Like i said be4 it's running when ur up in the 20k or better and u still cant agree that means one is allways going to up the price to avoid what there scared of.

[Officially Retired]

It really depends on who's doing the betting, as different people have different-sized wallets.

$5,000 is a lot of money to "a working man," but to a self-made millionaire running a successful business $5K might seem like five cents and not be worth his time.

Let's just create a scenario...
1. The one who got offered $5000k is a single parent 1 income household with a small yard.
2. The one who made the offer had to borrow a crate to ship an 8 month old pup he could not handle...and the shipping was paid for in advance. And also couldn't afford to pay the DNA fees when he first received that same pup at 10 weeks old for free.
3. The one who made the offer also breeds untested dogs at 1 year old.

Well, as with anything else, each case is different.

There are some people who really don't think it is worth their time going through all the hassle/effort/risk of competing for less than "x" $$$ ... and then there are jackoffs who try to sound "fastlane" by pricing themselves out of the risk of competing. If you feel this person is of the latter variety, then just don't waste any more of your time dealing with them.

Back when I was competing, even though I was green, I still would never have wasted my time with someone like you described; I tried to go into the best competition I could, but it was never for more than $500. Of course, that was almost 20 years ago, but the guys I went into were all excellent, veteran dogmen that you didn't need to worry about a rub or any kind of BS like that with, but who knew how to bring Champion-level dogs and beat the best with them.

Jack


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[BulldogConnection]

500-5000 is all the same lane. It's not hard to come up with $5000. A "working man" should be making atleast $600 a week. Save your money and make sacrifices otherwise don't race at all.

Do what you have todo you dont need the purse up front. Give yourself 8-10 weeks. Fall behind on a few bills of you have to then when your charge pulls through take those winnings and get the lights turned back on. And if shit doesn't go the way you thought then you figure out what you're gonna do next. Don't bitch and complain.

[R2L]

up to 50 k is not uncommon. i personally think up to 3 is just fine. dogs should come first place, plus the glory and achievement you worked hard for is worth a lot more then cash

[Hurstmob]

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[R2L]

Do what you have todo you dont need the purse up front. Give yourself 8-10 weeks. Fall behind on a few bills of you have to then when your charge pulls through take those winnings and get the lights turned back on. And if shit doesn't go the way you thought then you figure out what you're gonna do next.

Do this if you want to get yourself into problems.

[Officially Retired]

Do what you have todo you dont need the purse up front. Give yourself 8-10 weeks. Fall behind on a few bills of you have to then when your charge pulls through take those winnings and get the lights turned back on. And if shit doesn't go the way you thought then you figure out what you're gonna do next.

Do this if you want to get yourself into problems.

I agree, this is totally irresponsible and bad advice.

Betting money you can't afford to lose might be fine if you're 25 and live by yourself, with no one else depending on you (and if you want to run the risk of developing some seriously bad habits) ... but if you're older and, hopefully, with better sense than to think like this, allowing yourself to fall behind on your financial obligations just to do some dogs shows a serious thinking disorder and total lack of responsibility. This kind of mindset is typical of people who get desperate and cheat, is when their entire livelihood is riding on a dog deal, and they will "do anything" to win. There is no fun in competing like that, and there is no "good times" to be had with people who have seriously poor judgment like that.

Making a $5000 bet with a man who makes $150,000 a year can be fun.
Making a $5,000 bet with a group of guys who pooled their extra money together to make it happy can be fun.

But making a $5000 bet with a guy who's missed his mortgage payment, whose kids are hungry, and whose lights are turned out ... who has everything he's got riding on the outcome of a dog deal isn't "fun" at all ... it is feeding the gambling disorder of an irresponsible derelict ... and if things start to go bad for that man's dog, you can bet your ass he will not show anything close to "good sportsmanship" and pick up ... and things might get even uglier than that if he loses both his dogs and his money over the deal.

So, no disrespect to anyone, but that is about the furthest thing from a sensible opinion that has been posted to date IMO.

Jack


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