The Cockers are together, why aren't we?

[S_B]

CA JACK ~ The Failed Laws ~
Although the reason dog fighting was made to be illegal was supposedly in the interests of the pit dogs’ welfare, as you will soon see the truth is outlawing the activity has hurt the pit bull breed and actually caused more suffering than there ever existed for the dogs when the sport was legal. Outlawing the activity certainly has not helped a thing, because (again, like Prohibition) illegalizing the sport only made the good people get out of it, while the outlaws and thugs (who don’t care about laws) remained. As a reminder, and lest we forget, pit dog fighting used to be run by The Police Gazette and the United Kennel Club itself.

There have been similar efforts in a human parallel. The same kind of pale, faint-hearted, tree-hugging animal-rights zealots (who have outlawed the sport of dog fighting) have also tried to outlaw boxing, no-holds-barred (NHB) mixed martial arts (MMA) human fighting (e.g., the UFC), and many other completely legitimate fighting activities, all based upon this same (basically insane) premise that these activities are “cruel.” These people believe they ‘just know’ what is right and wrong for others. Again, we see this same inability to consider all perspectives, not just one’s own. This total self-centered denseness, this same inability to see any other perspective besides one’s own, is then combined with the same basic unwillingness to examine all the facts in order to reach a fair, balanced, and accurate conclusion. Thus I write the Introduction of this book which I make as my opening Blog Post as well. I write this critical differentiation for the reader (who perhaps might be against the sport of dog fighting, but who really doesn’t know much about it), but yet who has a mind that is open enough to—just perhaps—be willing to listen. I write this introduction to tell the real truth about dog fighting.

Let me be completely honest both ways, however, because I believe this is important. I will admit that dog fighting can become cruel. It can become cruel when any of the people involved in staging the contests don’t have the ability (or don’t care) to recognize cruelty when it starts to happen. For even though two dogs may both start out willing to fight, there are many times when one of the dogs really doesn’t want to be in there anymore, but yet he is forced to remain (often called “left down”) to continue to fight in the contest anyway. This most definitely is cruelty, to the one dog who no longer wants to fight. When it is clear one dog has had enough a compassionate owner, handler, and/or referee should stop the fight—and yet because most of the good dogmen today have got out, what’s left of the sport are thugs who will leave their dogs down to suffer abuse rather then ‘pick up’ and stop things at that point.

This is spot on...Jack I've read this before and again today. And while I think overall you've hit the nail on the head and I can mostly agree. I think your use of derogatory statements, like "stupid humans", "sub-human", "tree huggers", "sissy's", and "grotesquely-fat", while being passionate writing is only going to lose readers you need to target.

Everyone ~ April 8th, 2014 is tomorrow!! http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...April-8th-2014

[S_B]

I've been on both sides of the fence cockers r just a different breed of people..they are honest with each other and they really work their animals..the birds are not peddled like these dogs.when was the last time you heard somebody say wow that bird looks cool I want one...most of the people and dogs don't even work there animals.Plus there's a lot of low lives involved in these dogs as well as thieves.

Agree

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This is spot on...Jack I've read this before and again today. And while I think overall you've hit the nail on the head and I can mostly agree. I think your use of derogatory statements, like "stupid humans", "sub-human", "tree huggers", "sissy's", and "grotesquely-fat", while being passionate writing is only going to lose readers you need to target.

Everyone ~ April 8th, 2014 is tomorrow!! http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...April-8th-2014

Thank you for your critique ... I will amend accordingly later today, because you're right.

Cheers,

Jack

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Thank you for your critique ... I will amend accordingly later today, because you're right.

Cheers,

Jack

[CYJ]

Hushman, I was good friends with a ole Game Cocker Sonny Shropshire. He got into the dog game for a short while. Helped me get a good brood bitch bred twice off the Loposay's Buster x Lopoasay's Beanie. He gave me a deep game rough bitch bred off Joe Beal's yard named Amber. Met Mr. Beal through Sonny. I use to go up to Box Woods on the N.C./Virginia line with him to see some great cockers compete. Was a lot of fun back then to spend the weekend at his house. Tar Heel Matt would come over sometimes back when he was a young fellow in his early twenties.

One day as we were sitting and talking, he says to me. You know since I have been in this dog game for awhile and dealt with a lot of various dog men and buying dogs etc. I have found the Game cockers are a hell of a lot more honest in selling good Cocks and brood stock than what many dog men are peddling. I had a good laugh with him and said maybe by Chickens having less genetic chromosomes than a dog. The gaminess can be better cloned in a chicken. LOL I knew what he meant and sometimes it was very true but not always. Cheers

[EWO]

Agree with the above posts. Three of the downfalls in the dogs are exactly as listed above. One, there is money to be made, and two, and worse, there is the appearance of money to be made. The third would be "I am cooler and tougher when I own a pit bull". These three greatly minimize the pure sport in the game but greatly expand the game at the same time. That expansion is made up of the very people who should not have a plant, much less a pet, and even less a bulldog.

I grew up in the birds as well. It is a different group of people. It is a cross section of society like most groups. There are good and bad, but not to the percentages in the dogs. Like the dogs there is money to be made, but it has to be earned, as peddling chickens is a tougher sale.

My Pops use to say, "The chickens are a Sunday morning sport and the dogs are a Saturday night sport and it is two different people hanging out during those times. EWO

[Jrbulldogs]

It is very possible but sitting around and talking about it wont do it, bulldoggers would have to come together and really become organized, those who say it cant be done should look at whats happening with marijuana,also look at country's like japan who hold huge events for their animals??

[Nut]

thats not a good argument

1.marijuana has medical benefits
2.illegally grown marijuana is often sprayed with dangerous toxics to keep the bugs of, legalization can help get the user a clean product
3.it will reduce criminal activity and dangerous situations where people grow at home with poor electricity connection
4.the government has huge financial benefits from legalization


now what benefits does dogfighting has? can you seriously compare those?

[Jrbulldogs]

im not trying to argue im just showing you that once people come together for something change can happen,do you really think the governement cares about the benefits of marijuana and its healing properties when they have made it illegal for such a long time??? its obvious they already knew about the medicinal qualites thats why they made it illegal in the first place, they only are letting it now because people have become informed about its benefits, o yea and one more thing, it will bring in huge amounts of $$$$$$$$$$$

[Nut]

so which real, active dogman wants to come together to try that. i would seriously be surprised if anyone (with an iq above 90) sticks his hands up.