Yes, he got his dogs straight from Fletcher. That is true. But what he did afterwards was all his doing not Fletcher's doing. Double Trouble and Sexy weren't outstanding dogs. Little John himself wasn't an outstanding dog. I never said he got great dogs from Fletcher. What Voyles and Little John produced were some outstanding dogs, and that was due to the breeding decisions Voyles made himself. It had little to do with dogs coming from Fletcher.

Some of the best dogs I've ever had/seen were from a obscure breeder from Oklahoma. The ability to breed quality dogs, or quality dogs themselves, don't all originate on the East Coast. I'm in the South. I've lived all over this country and in Canada. None of the best dogs I've ever seen were bred by someone on the East Coast. As for your definition of great dogmen and mine, well, I'd say that while there are some common agreements, I wouldn't put every name you had in the "great" dogman category.