I know a lot of extremely serious dogmen who don't have websites
I know a lot of extremely serious dogmen who don't have websites
ok this can be your opinion but i think its the other way around, serious dogman have nothing to show or proof on a website. in fact i think websites of non peddlers are hard to find. it all depends on what's your goals tho.
I agree @ Jack,
@ R2L it all depends on the mission, for example depending on the SPORTof your liking, me for example I am into the sport of Schutzhund and conformation shows so I want to advertise my animals and I accompolishments. But some dogmen is word of mouth, take Jack for example, dogmen like him do not need website showing his dogs, just order his DVD's and read his books and you know what he is about. Hell look at my Bulldogs, they have Jack written all over them, and their not APBT lol! In fact I agree with you to a certain extent, because the only way I found about Jack was through another dogman, but you have to remember I am not referring to running the dogs, of course you can't have up a website.
Some dogmen consider websites to be paper trails & evidence for a conviction so they stay away from the internet & keep it underground.
Fact: Almost every major "bust" has been to dogmen who don't have websites ...Originally Posted by relentless
lol, guess this is where the discussion about websites is coming to and end. of course that is true, because no one has a website. but still not underground or smart enough i figure.Fact: Almost every major "bust" has been to dogmen who don't have websites ...
No, the truth is "websites" don't get people busted ... snitches do.
Almost every single major bust is the result of a SNITCH, or some under-cover operative posing as "a dogman" who gathers direct evidence in some way.
The only exception I can think of would be Tant, who had undercover operatives watching him, one of whom tripped a booby trap while on his property in disguise. But it still was a matter of direct evidence, and not a website.
Therefore, unless you're advertising upcoming shows to the world on your site, and showing up to meet just anybody to do your thing, a website really can't do much to hurt you. People may use "this or that" on a website as supplemental evidence to support a case, but BY ITSELF the truth is having a website with dog pedigrees on it, or even outdated historical information on it, has NEVER resulted in a single bust ... so it is just pure ignorance to say otherwise.
What results is busts is some snitch gathering direct evidence on you, in your presence, so choose your crowds & company carefully.
Jack
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I'd like to add that the use of a website can advertise anything it's owner likes -- including things that would work AGAINST a conviction if it were brought up in court. For instance, there are doggers with websites that showcase nothing but conformation shows, therapy work done with their dogs, fantastic references and testimonials by show/pet people who send in pictures of the dog they purchased lounging around with their toddlers and tea-cup poodles. As with anything on the internet, it's a TOOL, and can be used to a person's advantage OR disadvantage, depending upon the individual.
You put together a website that shows the dogs you produce helping old people and cuddling with babies, and you could post the Cajun Rules on your homepage, they'll still be hard pressed to find anyone who could argue all of the dogs bred, owned or sold by you are fighting monsters, good for nothing but the gas chamber.
agree
+1 if used as a tool to credit yourself in other ways and keep out what's only for a select few
I don't doubt that for 1 bit. I had a website up b4. Now, I made the comment cuz there are a few who computers were confiscated & was used to convict them cuz of what they were posting on the site; fresh busted up ch. & bragging about it.Fact: Almost every major "bust" has been to dogmen who don't have websites ...
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