Ive had alot of diff. bloodlines over 30 plus yrs and dont consider myself a breeder but can say ive tried most lines out there and have fewer pulling up on me than rbj dogs.They may not be the best line because everyone has there own opinion on what a good dogs is,but can tell u I'll feed these fool dogs as long as I can walk,then maybe I'll crawl out to them.Just my 2cents.
Jack you are so full of shit .i bet when the first dogs came over from Ireland they went straight to the west .Originally Posted by CA Jack
Right. Exactly. The west made the east.
From the western dogmen Carver and Mayfield
Yes it can, but the best, most historical, most influential dogmen are not from North Carolina ... they're western dogmen.
The great western dogmen are the ones who set the eastern dogmen up
In fact, Tom Garner got his two most influential dogs (Chinaman and Frisco) from the western dogman Vince Romero.
All his other dogs (even the ones with Crenshaw in them) came from the west, as Crenshaw likewise got his best dogs from the western dogman Maurice Carver also.
Jack
Me too!(lol) and I wish I knew jack when I was in San dog.
tom DID get chinaman from the west.......
That is not why I said he is full of it ,lol.he just is !tom DID get chinaman from the west.......
How am I full of shit?
LMAO, quite frankly, you're the one who's full of shit in every outlandish claim you've made. On down the line.
Essentially, you've been made a fool of on virtually every topic you've brought up ... and you have ZERO answers to anything I've said.
From RBJ dogs "killing the most."
To "all" the good ones being RBJ.
And, now, to your statement of "the best dogmen" being on the east coast.
I've asked you to name those "killingest" dogs compared to other bloodlines. (You can't.)
I've listed a boatload of dogs that have killed the best RBJ dogs on earth. (You have no answer.)
I've listed a boatload of dogs that have won more fights, and killed more dogs, than any RBJ dog on earth. (So you change the subject.)
And, now, you made the asinine statement that "the best dogmen" are on the east coast.
Well, buddy, I made a list of THE BEST breeders from the west ... who sold damned near every major east coast breeder their dogs ... and, once again, you can't come back with a rebuttal.
You have made an fool out of yourself, basically, on practically every level there is to be had, saying nothing but pure silliness.
And so now all you can say "I" am full of shit
The truth is, you should stop making baseless, ridiculous, unfounded claims ... and start making some rational, realistic ones
Jack
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Wow Guys. Sh!ts Heated in here. For the record ive been in the dogs around 7 years only and since day one i was RBJ Fan of Note. I beleived only in this line of dog for many years. I've owned very good dogs of this line never owned a Line bred RBJ dog but most of my stock was the closest to that in my country. Now i can tell you I am yet to come across a more Gamer line in my life. I had this little star Lady-Artemis x1GL who was 40% RBJ and old ozzie steavens blood/Eli outcross. This Dog was magic. From 2 months of age she would scream to get to any animal thinking she would end it even thou it was 10 times her size. She was stupid brave and had heart like no other. I thought the world of her and thought she could not be beaten. I challenged one of the best 19.5 females in the country @ the time. Hanna 2xw. She was a yellow/Bolio dog and was one of the most hunt smart animals i have seen. From the moment they where realeased it was a all out war. Barn storming lady into a pitsmart hanna. Both dogs where going toe to toe for 1:28 mins. Hanna eventually destroyed ladies front right leg and she lost all use of it and her left front leg was pretty damaged aswell. I thought it was over but little did i know that night i witnessed was gonna move my heart and shake the essence of my soul, Remind me why i got into these animals. Man she scratched like a beauty. rocketed out the corner and scratched on her face tail wagging in the air taking hold of hanna and colapsing to the ground but fighting her so fierlesly. 1 hour 41 i conceided due to the fact i knew both dogs had gone pass the point of no return and i was hoping to save them. Hanna became a champion that night and made her father a rom but both dogs lost there lives 3 days later. I will never forget when i conceided i asked them for her last scratch. ran out the corner and tumbled to her opponent making it to her on her face. taking hold. These RBJ Dogs will forever and always hold a dear place in my heart. GAME TO THE BONE!
Now let me tell you the truth. RBJ Dogs game as can be. Truth be told Red boy dogs are as dumb as they come, Yellow Dogs as smart as they come but who really wants a ear sucker. Mayday dogs can bite and balanced out and are all round athletes. Redboy dogs by themselves are not such a good line. Yellow dogs and may dogs. Basically same shit. Ear suckers and fancy foot work. This is what Great matches are made of. Going 3-4 hours, spectacular and heart moving but truth be told this is not what wins shows. In my personal Opinion from what i have seen in my country. Nothing compares with The Eli Line. Even the frisco/Tudor/Chinaman Line what i dislike wins like you cant beleive. Eli/Bolio is a unstoppable combination what produce dogs of such caliber they will shock ur socks of. My prefrence of the eli strain comes from the The mexican strain of Enrico Morfine dogs. i find that works with bolio the best and produce dogs what RBJ just cant. Thats my own personal opinion and i still run RBJ dogs but the truth is RBJ are not best dogs in terms of campaigning today. They work as a nice out cross and add some key attributes i find if u keep there blood at 25% or less in a breeding u will be taking there best atributes while allowing for less negavtives.
Jack ,just because you say so does not mean is so,.yes a few breeders did come from the west but where did they get their start fool.keep on and I will tell you how and why you got sassy back!it ain't pretty .dont make me go on a seek and destroy mission to prove I am right .catch my drift!How am I full of shit?
LMAO, quite frankly, you're the one who's full of shit in every outlandish claim you've made. On down the line.
Essentially, you've been made a fool of on virtually every topic you've brought up ... and you have ZERO answers to anything I've said.
From RBJ dogs "killing the most."
To "all" the good ones being RBJ.
And, now, to your statement of "the best dogmen" being on the east coast.
I've asked you to name those "killingest" dogs compared to other bloodlines. (You can't.)
I've listed a boatload of dogs that have killed the best RBJ dogs on earth. (You have no answer.)
I've listed a boatload of dogs that have won more fights, and killed more dogs, than any RBJ dog on earth. (So you change the subject.)
And, now, you made the asinine statement that "the best dogmen" are on the east coast.
Well, buddy, I made a list of THE BEST breeders from the west ... who sold damned near every major east coast breeder their dogs ... and, once again, you can't come back with a rebuttal.
You have made an fool out of yourself, basically, on practically every level there is to be had, saying nothing but pure silliness.
And so now all you can say "I" am full of shit
The truth is, you should stop making baseless, ridiculous, unfounded claims ... and start making some rational, realistic ones
Jack
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Any poncho dogs in North Carolina !!!,,,How am I full of shit?
LMAO, quite frankly, you're the one who's full of shit in every outlandish claim you've made. On down the line.
Essentially, you've been made a fool of on virtually every topic you've brought up ... and you have ZERO answers to anything I've said.
From RBJ dogs "killing the most."
To "all" the good ones being RBJ.
And, now, to your statement of "the best dogmen" being on the east coast.
I've asked you to name those "killingest" dogs compared to other bloodlines. (You can't.)
I've listed a boatload of dogs that have killed the best RBJ dogs on earth. (You have no answer.)
I've listed a boatload of dogs that have won more fights, and killed more dogs, than any RBJ dog on earth. (So you change the subject.)
And, now, you made the asinine statement that "the best dogmen" are on the east coast.
Well, buddy, I made a list of THE BEST breeders from the west ... who sold damned near every major east coast breeder their dogs ... and, once again, you can't come back with a rebuttal.
You have made an fool out of yourself, basically, on practically every level there is to be had, saying nothing but pure silliness.
And so now all you can say "I" am full of shit
The truth is, you should stop making baseless, ridiculous, unfounded claims ... and start making some rational, realistic ones
Jack
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