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  1. #11
    Perfectly said Jack, something a lot more folks need to remember when conducting business. "Reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyRed View Post
    Why would you mention you could copy & paste all his emails on here? No need for that, you came on the board told the story got responses all after you contacted your attorney. It's obvious the guy liked the way the dog was bred and needed the dog shipped to his country with a Health Cert for Stephen's Curr on it. Nothing new about it, hell many folks do the same thing. You decided to turn him down and let him take his money back without burning him. You did your part, now you can send him on his way. Reason he asked you to take it down or scolded you was because maybe you weren't the only person he inquired about a dog that is up for sale. So with likely more than 1 person contacted and he the common man of being from Australia it's not hard to start pin pointing people. I think after you told me you called your attorney I would of just said send the money back anyways, not trying to be attached to nothing illegal just like you aren't
    Exactly!!!

    Randy you should start conducting yourself like a grown man,and handle your dealings with people in private...instead of coming to an open forum and discussing this...and posting private emails between you and the potential customer is a big no no!...

    if you don't want to deal with him then thats fine..but show some dignity and let it be...you will gain more respect that way...

  3. #13
    I believe you did the right thing also. I think he's just up set that you changed your mind.

  4. #14
    Thanks Loot and the guys that do agree with me. I almost got talked into something and glad I backed out. For everyone's information my attorney is my first cousin. I ask her lots of stuff when I talk to her. She never has told me wrong. She ask me Plumbing advice and ask lots of advice on other matters. I've always done things my way and have been a successful Master Plumber. I also was successful with the dogs back in the day. I matched into some of the best and beat them. I had critics back them but I shut their mouth with my dogs. My family loves me and treats me like a king and I've never been arrested. I'm 70 years old and have been through lots of things that all you young guys will still have to face. I read an article where one of the reasons they got to take certain satelite and air photos of Floyd Boudreaux' place was. They said that selling dogs in foreign countries put him in a bracket like a terrorist. That gave them the right to spy on him. I think that is nonsense and a twist and turn of the judicial system. If anyone thinks they are going to change me and my methods. Think again. Notice I will sign my name to what I write. Randy Fox

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxman View Post
    Thanks Loot and the guys that do agree with me. I almost got talked into something and glad I backed out. For everyone's information my attorney is my first cousin. I ask her lots of stuff when I talk to her. She never has told me wrong. She ask me Plumbing advice and ask lots of advice on other matters. I've always done things my way and have been a successful Master Plumber.
    Randy, you can do what you want, but when you tell dogmen "I contacted my attorney," it sets a red flag up for most folks.
    No one had any way to know your cousin was your attorney, so you not including that piece of information was basically ASKING FOR some "raised eyebrows" ...

    It probably would have been wiser, and less of a red flag, to say, "I contacted my cousin, who's an attorney," and I don't think anyone would blame you for that.

    Now I don't know what you being a plummer has anything to do with, but doing things "your own way" is something pretty much everyone does. I know I do



    Quote Originally Posted by Foxman View Post
    I also was successful with the dogs back in the day. I matched into some of the best and beat them. I had critics back them but I shut their mouth with my dogs. My family loves me and treats me like a king and I've never been arrested. I'm 70 years old and have been through lots of things that all you young guys will still have to face. I read an article where one of the reasons they got to take certain satelite and air photos of Floyd Boudreaux' place was. They said that selling dogs in foreign countries put him in a bracket like a terrorist. That gave them the right to spy on him. I think that is nonsense and a twist and turn of the judicial system. If anyone thinks they are going to change me and my methods. Think again. Notice I will sign my name to what I write. Randy Fox
    That is interesting about selling dogs to other countries putting people in a position to be spied-upon.

    So does giving out your address and letting people know where you live, which is why I pretty much stopped doing that in the early 2000s. (Also a good way to get dogs stolen.)

    As far as "changing you," no one is actively trying to change you or your methods ... in fact I don't think anyone really cares about your transactions.
    But when you PUT "you and your methods" up here to be scrutinized, then you're basically ASKING for some criticism, are you not?

    If no one is ever going to change you, and if you would NEVER accept the idea that you could possibly be wrong, then why even ask anyone what they think?

    Just do what you do, in silence.

    Jack

    PS: That said, I still would have done the same thing you did, NOT go through with the deal;
    I personally just wouldn't have aired the whole thing out in public ... unless I was attacked first in public.

  6. #16
    Jack would never call an attorney because he IS one That's a big plus when it comes to legal matters, but you dont have to be one to know the law. That was a raw deal the minute he changed his mind about the shipping. Ireland has no restrictions, England does. Each Country has their own bullshit procedures. Just go to the Usda website and click on your country of interests, and the list of bullshit you have to do is on there along with the restrictions.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by evolutionkennels View Post
    Jack would never call an attorney because he IS one That's a big plus when it comes to legal matters, but you dont have to be one to know the law. That was a raw deal the minute he changed his mind about the shipping. Ireland has no restrictions, England does. Each Country has their own bullshit procedures. Just go to the Usda website and click on your country of interests, and the list of bullshit you have to do is on there along with the restrictions.
    LMAO, no I am not, good sir ... but I do deal with them on a daily basis.

    I am a Senior Casualty Claims Investigator, not attorney

    Cheers.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    LMAO, no I am not, good sir ... but I do deal with them on a daily basis.

    I am a Senior Casualty Claims Investigator, not attorney

    Cheers.


    Jajajaja, Jack deals with Assholes on a daily basis... So when some asshole rears his head on a message board... It's a no contest. Look up the verb Calijacked on urban dictionary. It means to get game of throned on a message board.

  9. #19


    Pretty much

  10. #20
    Floyd being spied upon had to do with X amount of money being sent by WU from the Middle East. After 9/11, there are a lot of things being watched more closely when it comes to those type things. So no, selling a dog to a foreign country doesn't put you in any terrorist bracket. Whoever told you that, or wherever you read it, is full of shit.

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