Kidney's

[Nut]

I agree. Common sense goes a long way. I determine the quality of kibble by how much water they drink while on it. The BEST.... NATURES VARIETY VENISON & LAMB WITH RAW BOOST. They drink almost zero water to process it. "almost" like raw. The worst.. Orijen.... Also... NVRBWV&L is the only food I've ever fed where the pregnant and nursing bitch doesn't lose any hair.

So u value orijen as worst quality because they drink the most water on it. Doesnt that have to do with the % of protein in ratio to other kibbles.

[evolutionkennels]

It's the worst of all the quality feeds. The NV better

[Nut]

Iv tried it and i didn't like it, gave em soft somewhat greenish shit on regional red.

[Macker]

Judging by the comments here most of you guys leave your dog's with fresh water for the most of the keep and this is the dog's only source of fluids during the keep??? Excuse me if I've taken you guys up wrong, just trying to read between the lines here, the original question referred to the conditioning of an animal.

[FrostyPaws]

No, powder or vitamin or steroid, none of that shit matters if your dog has access to all the fresh water it wants. The mistake people make is to cut water during the keep. Never cut water. Furthermore, I always believed in bringing a dog one pound in waterweight over his dried out pit weight. TThat way he has enough water to allow him to work during the show. Some idiots are like.... My dogs kidneys shut down after the show.... I say.. They sure did. It's also smart to have Lasix on hand after the show as part of the recovery, along with solu delta and an iv bag.

Kidneys shut down afterwards mainly because of Rhabdomyolysis. The amount of water the dog has during a show naturally depletes as the show continues on due to fluid volume loss. While Solu Delta (or any type of anti-shock agent) is supremely important, even more important are the fluids as that is what will flush the kidneys to possibly reverse and save the kidneys from Rhabdo.

[Black Hand]

Yeah if there was lot of damage it can hurt the animal internally.

[evolutionkennels]

Kidneys shut down due afterwards mainly because of rhabdomyolysishttp://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/000473.htm

yup

[FrostyPaws]

Judging by the comments here most of you guys leave your dog's with fresh water for the most of the keep and this is the dog's only source of fluids during the keep??? Excuse me if I've taken you guys up wrong, just trying to read between the lines here, the original question referred to the conditioning of an animal.

Macker, I don't leave my dogs with fresh water for most of the keep. They have fresh water the first 2-3 weeks of their keep, and afterwards the water they have is the water I give them during feeding time and whatever they get the next morning. That way I prevent excess water intake at inappropriate times, and I'm not battling excess weight. My dogs are isolated from the others, so excessive foolishness doesn't come into play, which in turn, has them drinking excessive water. If you give your dog 1oz of water per pound of weight, the dog will have plenty of water to drink everyday. You can give it all at once after work, or you can split it in half by giving half that night and half the next morning. Either way, that will be plenty of water for your dog throughout the keep everyday.

[Nut]

Can one of you explain what role solu delta cortef plays in fluid loss/ kidney shutdown.

[FrostyPaws]

None. Solu Delta Cortef is for shock purposes.