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Thread: Gameness and Size ????

  1. #31
    This is a bunch of over reaching and over thinking JMO. It really did get a convo started but had no validity to began with and the rest rest was just searching for some.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by EGK View Post
    This is a bunch of over reaching and over thinking JMO. It really did get a convo started but had no validity to began with and the rest rest was just searching for some.

    Well you certainly cleared that up, and no one would accuse 'you' of over-thinking

    There are actually quite a bit of meritorious thoughts in the original post.

    There are also a bunch of misconceptions that many people have that "little dogs" are harmless, etc.

    Genius, do you realize that all posts, on all forums, by their very existence, are a search for feedback ... wth do you think a forum is for?

    Jack

  3. #33
    Jack I'm not going to get into a back and forth with you. This is your board to state the obvious with regard. You broke the original post down fine as did others and IMO and that alone the rest was reaching to find a point. You all gave good info and examples. I said nothing more than you already eluded to. As a dog man we know size has no correlation with gameness. That doesn't take genius. Some things are what they are and others are merely a pondering. The poster said in the original post he didnt believe in general that smaller dogs were gamer than larger dogs. He was just throwing this out for convo sake. Well what is the convo about if you don't believe in general yourself. It seemed exertion, stress levels or energy use related to body composition, size and how this chemically effects a showing of gameness do to stress was the real subject. If a dog uses less energy in theory then it goes longer or is more active but this is not a show of gameness. The battle is the measure of gameness and perseverance of the individual. This in itself is to large of a variable to be measured. It is no more than an experience that varies case to case. You clearly said he said the same thing differently in his rebuttal and to me that was reaching. Then even more so the subject veered because it was over thought reaching. And, maybe I could have added this input before my prior statement of over thinking and reaching but I figured it was covered well by all and too obvious . If I offended you it wasn't my intent but so be it. I'll reserve my opinion any further from this post and move on.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by EGK View Post
    Jack I'm not going to get into a back and forth with you. This is your board to state the obvious with regard. You broke the original post down fine as did others and IMO and that alone the rest was reaching to find a point. You all gave good info and examples. I said nothing more than you already eluded to. As a dog man we know size has no correlation with gameness. That doesn't take genius. Some things are what they are and others are merely a pondering. The poster said in the original post he didnt believe in general that smaller dogs were gamer than larger dogs. He was just throwing this out for convo sake. Well what is the convo about if you don't believe in general yourself. It seemed exertion, stress levels or energy use related to body composition, size and how this chemically effects a showing of gameness do to stress was the real subject. If a dog uses less energy in theory then it goes longer or is more active but this is not a show of gameness. The battle is the measure of gameness and perseverance of the individual. This in itself is to large of a variable to be measured. It is no more than an experience that varies case to case. You clearly said he said the same thing differently in his rebuttal and to me that was reaching. Then even more so the subject veered because it was over thought reaching. And, maybe I could have added this input before my prior statement of over thinking and reaching but I figured it was covered well by all and too obvious . If I offended you it wasn't my intent but so be it. I'll reserve my opinion any further from this post and move on.
    EGK, you bet your ass you're about to go back and forth with me.

    As long as you respond, and say stupid things, you will go back and forth with me.

    You say, "this is my board to state the obvious with regard?" With regard? With regard to what? Do you even know how to communicate?

    And speaking of stating the obvious, thank you for pointing out the fact it's my board ... it only has my name on every page

    You're a real deep fellow, EGK, and so far you're a real star contributor here

    Now then, you said, As dogmen, WE KNOW?

    What TF does that mean? Are you saying ALL dogmen have the same knowledge?

    You mean, as dogmen "we know" which style is best?

    As dogmen "we know" what is optimal to feed a dog?

    As dogmen "we know" which conditioning regimens are best?

    As dogmen "we know" how to breed the best dogs?

    As dogmen "we know" ... what?

    Hell, since we all know the same things, I guess I haven't really spent the better part of the last 18 years online, fielding thousands of questions, then, because (according to you) "all dogmen know" the same things

    And, guess what EGK, while you sit here and analyze how far "I reached," let me point out the fact that YOU are the one doing the reaching with your "as dogmen, we know" stance.

    There is quite a bit that most dogmen DON'T know ... including you.

    You said: The battle is the measure of gameness and perseverance of the individual.

    Really? I have seen quite a few battles that weren't the measure of anything.

    Buddy, while you accuse "me" of overthinking ... let me suggest that it is you who is underthinking.

    Why don't you take a good look at yourself, and analyze the true worth of the next thing you write. You also sent me a private message saying that you would "reframe" from posting anymore, so let me give you a public boot-in-the-ass, and "point out the obvious" again, this time to you, because the word is refrain ... and, yes, it would be a great idea for you to get your own head together before you say anything further.

    Jack

  5. #35
    You took it as I was saying you reached but I was agreeing with you. Only saying you laid out perfectly good examples as others with good info. Oh well, I'm done and yes refrain. In no way was I saying you over thought or reached. That was in reference to you making good points and No Quarter saying the same thing different and then the topic veering. No big deal though. I just won't post anymore.

  6. #36
    Dogs are bigger this day and time than years ago. I think the percentage of curdogs is much greater today. We had the Mayday dogs along with some other South American blood checked. We found Laborador retriever blood in them and I can prove this. Yet they are lots of good dogs in those bloodlines. It turned me off when we got the test results back. I had better luck using the small dogs years ago. Dogs are like power tools. Each person has their favorite. A person tends to use what works better for them. I had no way of testing them to see what all was in them back then. A lot of them might have had curr blood in them but they scratched good for me. I can tell by looking at the dogs pedigrees why there are so many currdogs today. Go on pedigrees online and look at the dogs pictures on each generation in every bloodline. They don't have a mark on them. They inbreed on a bloodline but skip generations of dogs with no scars. Simply breeding a bloodline may convince you they are good but I want each generation tested. Everyone seems to know everything about breeding and getting good dogs. I will tell you dogs will make a fool out of you if they are not tested. I don't know why I even said anything. I'm just a dumb old man who had a little luck back in the day. The thing that makes me dumb is fighting them to start with. The majority of people hate dogfighting. I never bragged on myself or my dogs back then. The people that saw them fight bragged on them. I never ran down any mans dogs back then either. To step on someone verbally doesn't move you up the ladder like some people think. I think everyone should have what they like and I like small dog. Randy Fox

  7. #37
    There is no way in hell to respond to this last comment without accruing so many violations on so many different levels as per the Discussion Board Rules ( yes Jack , I read them ! ) lol ... So I'm just going to keep it moving.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbinoRhino View Post
    There is no way in hell to respond to this last comment without accruing so many violations on so many different levels as per the Discussion Board Rules ( yes Jack , I read them ! ) lol ... So I'm just going to keep it moving.

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