Well, if you want to talk about "today's game" ... and epic battles "today" ... let me burst your bubble with this reality check:

Because didn't Gr Ch Homer Balboa (6xW, 1xL DOY) ... just get beat by the Eli/Carver Gr Ch Titere (7xW, DOY)?

Now, admittedly, there is 1/4 Redboy in Titere, but there is not a drop of Jocko, and the dog is basically 3/4 Eli/Carver.

Check your facts; review your history (past and present) ... because if you see a dog winning 7, 8, 9x almost invariably it will not be a RBJ dog ... it will be an Eli/Carver dog or similar.

That is just the way the ball keeps bouncing ...

Jack

PS: It's not about how we "feel" ... nor is this to discredit any line. We are just crunching numbers and quoting hard statistics.