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  1. #21

    Re: know you breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by relentless
    I don't doubt that for 1 bit. I had a website up b4. Now, I made the comment cuz there are a few who computers were confiscated & was used to convict them cuz of what they were posting on the site; fresh busted up ch. & bragging about it.

    By itself, being found with the fresh, busted-up Champion is enough to get a conviction, especially with witnesses/snitches there to testify. Gathering the computer materials was only supplemental evidence.

    By itself, posting on a computer about yesterday's dog matters, or on philisophies about what would make for a good combat dog, or theoretically how to care for a wounded dog, means nothing and is insufficient evidence to do anything.

    It is only through the dropped-dime of a snitch (or undercover operative) that a "bust" can take place, which (if it does take place) then they will take whatever evidence they can get, once they get in (which naturally also includes a computer).

    Yet, here again, the website isn't the problem (or even the main evidence), the chopped-up dog and the testimony of the witness is the main evidence; the braggings online are only supplemental ... and would never stand up in court by itself, without a chopped-up dog or witness.

    However, I would imagine that if any person foolish enough to directly brag they have a "new Champion," and if their address is known and they indicate the "fresh evidence" is there onsite, that might be grounds for a raid based on self-incrimination.

    But talking about old events of events far in the past has never led to anything that I can think of, nor could it ever stand up in court by itself.

    Jack

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  2. #22

    Re: know you breeder

    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack
    Quote Originally Posted by relentless
    I don't doubt that for 1 bit. I had a website up b4. Now, I made the comment cuz there are a few who computers were confiscated & was used to convict them cuz of what they were posting on the site; fresh busted up ch. & bragging about it.

    By itself, being found with the fresh, busted-up Champion is enough to get a conviction, especially with witnesses/snitches there to testify. Gathering the computer materials was only supplemental evidence.

    By itself, posting on a computer about yesterday's dog matters, or on philisophies about what would make for a good combat dog, or theoretically how to care for a wounded dog, means nothing and is insufficient evidence to do anything.

    It is only through the dropped-dime of a snitch (or undercover operative) that a "bust" can take place, which (if it does take place) then they will take whatever evidence they can get, once they get in (which naturally also includes a computer).

    Yet, here again, the website isn't the problem (or even the main evidence), the chopped-up dog and the testimony of the witness is the main evidence; the braggings online are only supplemental ... and would never stand up in court by itself, without a chopped-up dog or witness.

    However, I would imagine that if any person foolish enough to directly brag they have a "new Champion," and if their address is known and they indicate the "fresh evidence" is there onsite, that might be grounds for a raid based on self-incrimination.

    But talking about old events of events far in the past has never led to anything that I can think of, nor could it ever stand up in court by itself.

    Jack

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    I see your point bro.

  3. #23

    Re: know you breeder

    How many times have you seen someone get busted because they had something else going on that lead the police to call animal control? Like someone selling guns or drugs or someone getting busted because they got puled over and they had enough drugs to be considered a dealer which gives the law the right to go to the listed address on the driver's ID and search the home. But then they find a yard full of dogs who have not had proper after care nor proper food or shelter?


    This is what get's us into trouble many times and it gives the public the idea that all owners and dogmen are drug dealers and thugs.

  4. #24

    Re: know you breeder

    I live near a city that is overrun with "pitbull type" dogs. I'd say that the problem is from people not taking care of their dogs and not finding them good homes if they don't want them anymore. The other problem is lack of care. It takes a lot of work to maintain a yard of dogs and many people think they can do it, but they can't. Money is also another factor that is overlooked. It is expensive to keep dogs healthy and in shape. If people took care of their animals, kept them from disturbing others, and shelters weren't overrun with "pitbull type" dogs, the breed would be in a lot better shape.

    The PBB has saved me money and time and has been a wonderful resource. In my eyes its a requirement for any dog owner of any breed.

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