man eaters

[dtakennels]

I've never owned a dog that was aggressive towards me, so I guess I've never owned a true manbiting dog. I've owned quite a few dogs that would try to bite everyone aside from my wife or myself. Like Jack, I've never had any issues with dogs like that, even though some people would. I've owned a lot of dogs, and still do, that absolutely despise children. I believe that's simply more in line with never being around them personally. Be that as it may, my yard is a No Kid Allowed zone if they come with parents.

That's not a man eater bro that is prey drive.....they look at the small kids as prey....eye level with them...I have owned a few that would let know 1 touch them but me and EWO can vouch for that.....I have always said these dogs are not for the pet owner when you have a working line......You don't have to turn them own it's in the blood.......1 of the biggest reason the dogs get a bad rap....idiots own them.....I have owned dogs that I would never let young kids get around.....same thing with a lot of working dogs.....Pet owners buy them and expect them to be a pet.....They want to work....



On yea EWO had them damn Fila....shit you want a man eater get 1 of them fuckers...
t

[Officially Retired]

Yeah, kids are another deal too. I agree that is prey drive.

Bandana would go ballistic at a kid, just like it was a dog. To her, it was "small and moving," so it needed to be killed.

I have never seen Silverback around kids, but I wouldn't trust him with one.
He was too intense and perpetually geeked-up to trust, and he was irritable if anything f*cked with him.
When he would play, even with me, it was always very rough, and his bites left bruises on me, let alone a small kid.

His daughter, Amazon, is the opposite, very calm and docile with kids (even other animals). She is more like Poncho in that regard.
Poncho could be eaten alive by puppies; they could play tug-of-war with his face, pull his ears till they bled, never bothered him.
My niece could grab both of his ears and hang on him, under his chin, and he would support her weight with his neck, and let her hang onto his ears, and he never even paid attention.

To be honest, I actually trust the deep, deep gameness of a CALM dog, more than a geeked-up dog ... they tend to conserve their energy better, last longer, and tend to be more unflappable in the trenches IMO.

Jack

[CrazyRed]

Bullyson couldn't have been a true maneater. He' s sitting on that house with Carver ... and then there was that photo of him in a room, by a coffee table, with several men in the room.

My guess he was aggressive to strangers.

I believe they were very weary of strangers, Zebo also road in cars free of confienment. I would suggest that maybe they were aggressive or just high prey driven animals. Now if a man is what they concentrated on as prey, they would be dangerous, but true maneater I dont know if that is what they were. Not if there were running free at houses and inside cars with more than 1 person in the vehicle.

[wolverine]

I'm with you on that jack. it does seem like a lot of those laid back dogs with virtually no aggression even towards dogs tend to be in it for the long haul. Although most of the time they were low ability dogs that didn't do much when they got there but they keep coming. not my cup of tea but you have to respect that.

[EWO]

DTA remember this...We had just worked DTA's Ch. Charlie. You were rubbing him down and I was insulating and covering the shop walls. I dropped a handful of nails, stooped down to pick them up and I looked up. Basically I was down on Charlie's eye level, crouched down close to being on all four's and looking him in the eye. He raised up, tensed and leaned forward. He was a hair away from making scratch.

Nothing man-eating about that just a dog doing what he was both bred and schooled to do. Good times. EWO

That's not a man eater bro that is prey drive.....they look at the small kids as prey....eye level with them...I have owned a few that would let know 1 touch them but me and EWO can vouch for that.....I have always said these dogs are not for the pet owner when you have a working line......You don't have to turn them own it's in the blood.......1 of the biggest reason the dogs get a bad rap....idiots own them.....I have owned dogs that I would never let young kids get around.....same thing with a lot of working dogs.....Pet owners buy them and expect them to be a pet.....They want to work....



On yea EWO had them damn Fila....shit you want a man eater get 1 of them fuckers...
t

[Officially Retired]

I'm with you on that jack. it does seem like a lot of those laid back dogs with virtually no aggression even towards dogs tend to be in it for the long haul. Although most of the time they were low ability dogs that didn't do much when they got there but they keep coming. not my cup of tea but you have to respect that.

I tend to see calm dogs as the opposite: high intelligence, dogs that take their time ... and get better and better the longer it goes.

A dog that has the sense to recognize what's friend, and what's foe, is typically the SMARTER animal

I think a lot of the "geeked-up" dogs start so fast, and look so good EARLY ... simply because they're letting it all hang out early ... so of course they look more impressive (at least at first).
It's like running: if you run as fast as you can, you'll cover more ground quicker ... but, ultimately, you'll never make it as far as a runner who paces himself.

Seems like, if the geeked-up dogs are truly superior to their foe, then they pretty much just steamroll the competition, which gets everyone all excited.

Trouble is, if those geeked-up dogs draw a dog with just as much ability, but a calmer demeanor, it seems like that, just about the time those geeked-up dogs start running out of steam, and fading out, those "laid back dogs" really start to come to life and begin to pour it on ... and it tends not to go so well for front-runners, when they draw a truly badass, truly long-distance War Horse like that ...

Geeked up dogs, because of their anxiety, simply "burn more juice" by their very nature and style; whereas rock-calm dogs simply conserve themselves by NOT being that way.

High-intensity dogs are exciting, and fun to watch, and I have had my share of good ones like that ... but I will always trust a truly long-distance machine a whole lot more if I have to be in a war ...

Jack

[FrostyPaws]

That's not a man eater bro that is prey drive.....they look at the small kids as prey....eye level with them...I have owned a few that would let know 1 touch them but me and EWO can vouch for that.....I have always said these dogs are not for the pet owner when you have a working line......You don't have to turn them own it's in the blood.......1 of the biggest reason the dogs get a bad rap....idiots own them.....I have owned dogs that I would never let young kids get around.....same thing with a lot of working dogs.....Pet owners buy them and expect them to be a pet.....They want to work....



On yea EWO had them damn Fila....shit you want a man eater get 1 of them fuckers...
t

I wasn't implying that dogs after kids made them maneaters. I was making another point on dogs was all.

[FrostyPaws]

I've seen a lot of "geeked-up" dogs on the chain not be that way once they get inside the square and the same can be said for calm dogs on the chain being complete retards inside the walls.

I tend to see them all as dogs initially, and let them show me what they are as time goes by. Calm doesn't always equate to intelligence anymore than geeked up points to anxiety or ignorance.

I do believe if you have 2 dogs of equal abilities, and one is a high strung animal INSIDE the walls, the calmer dog has the better chance of coming out on top, especially when pulled off the chain. That truly is what separates dogs on their own levels as opposed to a show where man has such an influence on potential outcomes. While I would never call an OTC gathering an actual show, regardless of a ref, weight, etc, I do firmly believe that is the best way to actually let the dogs themselves hash it out. I know that's off topic a tad, but I just followed my train of thought down the yellow brick road.

[wolverine]

I wasn't around back in the days of Zebo and bullyson, but i did get the chance to hang out with virgil for a weekend. He was chill in the house. Climbed right in my lap.

The next morning gambler put him on the chain while they took care of a few things. Later on i asked him about the rumors of Virgil being a man eater. as up until this point he seemed like a sweetheart.

He kind of smiled and said go take him off the chain. so I figured he wasn't
going to be too happy with me walking up to him on his chain, but out of
curiosity I tried anyway.




he was just kind of looking at me as I got closer. then about 20 feet from his
chain space it was like I crossed an imaginary line. and that crazy fucker
jumped up, and ran at me with everything he had. hitting the end of the chain
so hard i thought the swivel was gonna break. Just absolutely raising hell. We got a good laugh out of it.

but anyway in his case. I think he was just very territorial. and once he
claimed the spot as his own you best not go near it.

[evolutionkennels]

I tend to see calm dogs as the opposite: high intelligence, dogs that take their time ... and get better and better the longer it goes.

A dog that has the sense to recognize what's friend, and what's foe, is typically the SMARTER animal

I think a lot of the "geeked-up" dogs start so fast, and look so good EARLY ... simply because they're letting it all hang out early ... so of course they look more impressive (at least at first).
It's like running: if you run as fast as you can, you'll cover more ground quicker ... but, ultimately, you'll never make it as far as a runner who paces himself.

Seems like, if the geeked-up dogs are truly superior to their foe, then they pretty much just steamroll the competition, which gets everyone all excited.

Trouble is, if those geeked-up dogs draw a dog with just as much ability, but a calmer demeanor, it seems like that, just about the time those geeked-up dogs start running out of steam, and fading out, those "laid back dogs" really start to come to life and begin to pour it on ... and it tends not to go so well for front-runners, when they draw a truly badass, truly long-distance War Horse like that ...

Geeked up dogs, because of their anxiety, simply "burn more juice" by their very nature and style; whereas rock-calm dogs simply conserve themselves by NOT being that way.

High-intensity dogs are exciting, and fun to watch, and I have had my share of good ones like that ... but I will always trust a truly long-distance machine a whole lot more if I have to be in a war ...

Jack

I feel you need both. macho and Xena would let you walk a dog in thier chainspot if they were sunbathingoon a nice day, but let them see four walls... different story