((( DOG OF THE YEAR )))

[Macker]

It's nice to see a dog get his or her dues and the DOY award but I honestly think the important title the dog earned was the 7xw status. The main thing about these dogs is that they undisputedly earn all there titles i.e 1xw, 2xw, Ch, Gr Ch, POR, ROM and so on, these are the titles that really matter, the DOY title is the only one that comes down to people's actual opinion rather than the proving ground, there for in my opinion it's the absolute least important of all the above along with the BIS title.

People's opinions will always differ or be bias so those titles can always be taken with a pinch of salt and a 7xw should always be taken very seriously.

[S_B]

I have to disagree with you Jack on a 4xw beating an 8xw being a "so-so" accomplishment.

That's one helluva great accomplishment and It deserves a huge nod!!

But it doesn't compare to what GR CH Titere accomplished. That is truly an exceptional feat, one that could be compared the the Triple Crown of horse racing.

Now back to the Bible's DOY, if GR CH Titere can make ROM on top of what's he's done....all I can say is WOW!!!

Good luck to the folks behind him, yes I just issued you 1 more challenge!

S_B

[Officially Retired]

I have to disagree with you Jack on a 4xw beating an 8xw being a "so-so" accomplishment.

That's one helluva great accomplishment and It deserves a huge nod!!

But it doesn't compare to what GR CH Titere accomplished. That is truly an exceptional feat, one that could be compared the the Triple Crown of horse racing.

Now back to the Bible's DOY, if GR CH Titere can make ROM on top of what's he's done....all I can say is WOW!!!

Good luck to the folks behind him, yes I just issued you 1 more challenge!

S_B

I agree with your disagreement ... it was indeed an exceptional accomplishment.

I mean, essentially, when you said next ... in that "it does not compare" to the accomplishment of Titere.

But it certainly was one hell of an accomplishment compared to what most dogs achieve.

[Officially Retired]

It's nice to see a dog get his or her dues and the DOY award but I honestly think the important title the dog earned was the 7xw status. The main thing about these dogs is that they undisputedly earn all there titles i.e 1xw, 2xw, Ch, Gr Ch, POR, ROM and so on, these are the titles that really matter, the DOY title is the only one that comes down to people's actual opinion rather than the proving ground, there for in my opinion it's the absolute least important of all the above along with the BIS title.
People's opinions will always differ or be bias so those titles can always be taken with a pinch of salt and a 7xw should always be taken very seriously.

I agree with the gist of what you're saying: facts vs. opinions.

Becoming a 7xW is a fact, winning DOY is an opinion.

However, to suggest opinions don't matter at all is wrong I think.

If a dog wins BIS, yes that's an opinion, but it shows the level of win. A dog may "win," factually, but be unimpressive in the win.
Another dog may win also, but this dog has everyone going crazy with excitement as to his ability.

Both dogs are winners, factually, but it's how they win that impresses (or doesn't impress).

If a person is going to run a mag, and give out awards, then he has to have "reasons" for giving these awards that are easy to understand for the readership.

It is easy to understand why a dog winning his 5th over an 8xW would qualify him for consideration for DOY status.

However, when one of your own mag's DOYs faces the next year's DOY, for a clash on the following year, and they're two 6xWs Gr Chs going at it ... I don't see how that is not the bigger of the two great stories.

It is subjective in a sense, I agree, but FACTUALLY it is also the only time two successive DOYs faced each other in a head-to-head ... and therefore the biggest story of all.

Jack

[Macker]

I agree jack, I also believe titere is the ritefull DOY, what he done is the stuff of legends and the fact the two parties put this show together rather than held there two 6xw DOY's back to breed from also is the kind of stuff that I have to tip my hat at, it all makes for amazing stories. The fact that Titere didn't receive the honour is the exact reason that the DOY title holds very little salt with me and backs up my point.

Rather read the open opinions of the guys on here as to what there DOY is and why than read what the sdj thinks is the DOY, no disrespect to the mag but at the end of the day live debate outdoes it every day in my book.

[Johan]

I believe that the comunity has one doy and the mag one doy.

i believe that the true doy will come in to the light soon enough.

I dont have all the facts at all, just reading whats been said all over.

[No Quarter Kennel]

Face 2 Face & El Solo's Gr Ch Titere (7xW) multi-DOY

I was pretty disappointed that the SDJ did not give Gr Ch Titere the DOY Title for 2014 that he justly deserved.

I was debating over on PedsOnline that, in the Year of 2014, which is the only thing relative to this DOY Title, Titere did something no other dog did, and that was beat a 6xW/GrCh/DOY ... AND ... become a 7xW

That is a "better accomplishment" for the year of 2014 than any other dog on the face of this earth achieved.

Therefore, logic would hold that Titere, not some "other dog" (who did something less important) should earn the title of DOY.

I realize that some other dogs did some great things (beat Champions, became Grand Champion, etc.)

However beating "a Champion" isn't beating a 6xW/GrCh/DOY, is it?
And even becoming a 5xW is flyshit, historically, compared to becoming a 7xW

If we're going to stick with FACTS, Gr Ch Titere achieved TWO things most dogs never do ... (1) became a legit 7xW and (2) *beat* a 6xW to do it.

Any year is filled with dogs that beat Champions. Happens all the time.
However, beating a GRAND Champion does *not* happen all the time.

And while becoming a 5xW is also a great accomplishment, the fact is there are twenty 5xWs for every one 7xW there is.
Folks, very, very, very few dogs ever make it to 7xW ... and even fewer dogs get there by beating a fellow Gr Ch to do it
The last time any dog did what Titere did (become a 7xW by beating a fellow Gr Ch) was when Buck beat Sandman ... and Sandman wasn't a DOY ... and Buck barely won, where Titere won decisively.

Good as some of the other contestants were, there is NO WAY IN HELL any of them made the TWO historical accomplishments that Gr Ch Titere made in the year 2014.

No disrespect to the SDJ, but it was a very poor decision on the editor's part not to give the great Gr Ch Titere the HONOR he deserved ... because it will be a cold day in hell before another dog achieves what he has achieved ... while it is commonplace for dogs "beat Champions" and even to "become 5xWs" ...

So my hat is off to Gr Ch Titere, who (in the opinion of The Pit Bull Bible Online APBT Database) was absolutely THE DOG of the year 2014

Jack

No argument here. I agree 100%

[YELLOWJOHN]

I'm in no way knocking nor discrediting Gr Ch Grip but I'm just curious to know if the fraternity is aware of the age of the 8XW that he beat?!?...8....that's right 8!!! And my next question is how does Gr Ch Patty Cake gets female dog of the year when she hasn't been shown in 2 years!?!

This bitch made Champ in less than a year against top comp and make champ against a Bad Ass 4XW going for Gr Champ in less than an hour...sorta make you scratch your head!

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=43990

[Officially Retired]

Did not know the 8xW was eight ... that kinda sours things.

Yeah, as far as Pretty goes, winning 3 in one year (and beating two Champions) is pretty impressive.

Sounds like they may be running her into the ground though ...

[loot]

Did not know the 8xW was eight ... that kinda sours things.

Yeah, as far as Pretty goes, winning 3 in one year (and beating two Champions) is pretty impressive.

Sounds like they may be running her into the ground though ...

Agree Jack, time will tell.