Should Showing EXTREME GAMENESS be Part of DOY Candidacy?

[ragedog10]

Well, originally, my thought was ... "is ability all there is to greatness?"

Is beating 3 mediocre Champions, where you're never really behind, a "greater accomplishment" than beating ONE devastating Champion, suffering incredible punishment, taking it all, and coming from WAY BACK to win on a huge HEART + Ability?

Beating 3 Champions can mean a dog only has great ability, but yet never had to show HEART.

Doesn't true greatness imply HEART also?

Isn't the display of awesome heart the distinction between a front-runner and a legend?

Maybe the idea of a second title, for gameness, is the best way to go ... but my original thought was, "Okay X dog may not have won 6x, but he did display a level of gameness that the 6xW Y never showed ..."

Is true greatness only about # of wins?

Jack

True greatness could be a dog who won one show but showed gameness in coming back and beating a bad ass dog. Beating mediocre dogs mean nothing to be honest, I guess it comes down to who and what a said dog accomplishments.

[Pit Bull Committed]

S_B don't get me wrong here...gameness is the base but it doesn't have to end there.

[Officially Retired]

True greatness should encompass all of the accolades we are speaking of here.

That is why it is my opinion a DOY should be the cream of the crop.

The "Gamest" dog of the year only needs his/her gameness to be a consideration.

A truly great thought provoking topic as usual Jack!

S_B

True greatness could be a dog who won one show but showed gameness in coming back and beating a bad ass dog. Beating mediocre dogs mean nothing to be honest, I guess it comes down to who and what a said dog accomplishments.

There is something sorely lacking in a system that doesn't recognize the SPIRIT in these dogs.

The title DOY implies "Greatness" ... and part of greatness is ability/quality of opposition, etc., ... but part of greatness is ALSO unbelievable heart.

Sure, a game plug might get GIS, and we can admire his spirit, but he isn't really a great dog. I understand that.

However, some dogs *are* high ability animals, that also show incredible heart, and overcome incredible adversity, to win over some incredible opponents.

This begs the question, would every Grand Champion take its death .. or be able to overcome the same abuse?

Maybe Dog X can't win 6, and Dog Y can ... but yet Dog X did show incredible heart ... whereas Dog Y has not.

I guess I am just thinking out loud

[MISTER]

Yeah, I could swear another name these dogs go by is GAME Dogs (not "ability" dogs).

Again, what Titere did is remarkable ... but, again, would he take a killing, and belly-crawl at the 3-hr mark, on two broken legs, losing half his blood supply.

IMO, the GAME dogs who have done things like this are no less remarkable ... and they deserve our highest HONORS also ... not just a "footnote"

Jack

They should get an award but, who wants to have a yard full of belly crawlers? The way youre thinking is or at least im gathering is that bc an animal is so good to not get wrecked but can wreck his opposition he's less important than a belly crawler? Ive had a truly deep game animal nd at the time there was a BONA FIDE BAD ASS around nd I chose not to run with him bc I felt deep in my gut i wouldve gotten bit down before the belly crawling game scratches could begin.... The name of the breed is Game Dogs, and reason for matching dogs is to Win not out game the other...

I fully agree there should be a gamest award just as there's a doy award and the deep game dogs do deserve the nod to what theyve achieved or tried too... Would Titere belly crawl? Idk 7 TRIED AND 7 FAILED end of story lol

[Officially Retired]

They should get an award but, who wants to have a yard full of belly crawlers? The way youre thinking is or at least im gathering is that bc an animal is so good to not get wrecked but can wreck his opposition he's less important than a belly crawler? Ive had a truly deep game animal nd at the time there was a BONA FIDE BAD ASS around nd I chose not to run with him bc I felt deep in my gut i wouldve gotten bit down before the belly crawling game scratches could begin.... The name of the breed is Game Dogs, and reason for matching dogs is to Win not out game the other...

I fully agree there should be a gamest award just as there's a doy award and the deep game dogs do deserve the nod to what theyve achieved or tried too... Would Titere belly crawl? Idk 7 TRIED AND 7 FAILED end of story lol

I understand what you're saying ...

[ragedog10]

I hear you and understand what you mean! Most 6xw won't show game most aren't breeding game dogs that's why most shows are over in before 45. I prefer a game dog, one of the gamest I ever seen Showtime's CH.Roscoe. came from way behind to beat a monster he was the definition of Gameness

[ragedog10]

Titere was in a cast before #5 , he over came a lot heart worms and such.

[Officially Retired]

I hear you and understand what you mean! Most 6xw won't show game most aren't breeding game dogs that's why most shows are over in before 45. I prefer a game dog, one of the gamest I ever seen Showtime's CH.Roscoe. came from way behind to beat a monster he was the definition of Gameness

Who did he beat?

[ragedog10]

On his last he beat 315 Boys Burner who was a monster I'll have to think back this was a few years back.

[MISTER]

I understand what you're saying ...

Now with all that said, I think BLACKROCK'S EL NAZI is prolly the gamest SOB of the DECADE LOL and if an award is given out he should be noted as a top canadite...