View Poll Results: Should Showing EXTREME GAMENESS qualify a dog for DOY status?

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  • YES: Gameness is the essence of the breed, and dogs who show it to the extreme are deserving.

    47 55.29%
  • NO: The DOY title should only be about performance.

    38 44.71%
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Thread: Should Showing EXTREME GAMENESS be Part of DOY Candidacy?

  1. #61
    I voted NO. I think DOY is a performance title. I would like to think it means for the period of that year a certain dog won over the stiffest of competition. I do not know a lot about this year's odds on favorite (PBB DOY) but the fact he won as many as he did and beat a dog who had won just about as many as he did would get my vote for DOY.

    If one of the dog's he totally outclassed yet made those chin scraping, legs broken scratches were on the ballot I would not vote him for DOY. But if there was a category for GameDog of the Year that dog that showed that gameness would get my vote, and the winner/loser would not factor in.

    I consider DOY as the best total package dog for that given year. I think it was in a previous post, but the gamest dogs find themselves on the 'losing' side of the bracket, simply by running into a more talented/higher ability dog. And, unfortunately, and I do not agree, that 'losing game dog' often ends up seen as a plug. If that same dog did the exact same thing, yet won, for whatever reason, his gameness is deemed more valuable.

    I like the idea of having multiple year end titles. I like the idea of Kennel of the Year, and maybe even Producer of the Year as well. No other 'organization' has just one year end award. I mean at 9PM the Oscars come on, they make one award announcement, and then its if off by 9:04.

    I would love to see another category "Gamest DOY". For me, and it is my personal opinion, GDOY would be more impressive than DOY. EWO

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by EWO View Post
    I voted NO. I think DOY is a performance title. I would like to think it means for the period of that year a certain dog won over the stiffest of competition. I do not know a lot about this year's odds on favorite (PBB DOY) but the fact he won as many as he did and beat a dog who had won just about as many as he did would get my vote for DOY.

    If one of the dog's he totally outclassed yet made those chin scraping, legs broken scratches were on the ballot I would not vote him for DOY. But if there was a category for GameDog of the Year that dog that showed that gameness would get my vote, and the winner/loser would not factor in.

    I consider DOY as the best total package dog for that given year. I think it was in a previous post, but the gamest dogs find themselves on the 'losing' side of the bracket, simply by running into a more talented/higher ability dog. And, unfortunately, and I do not agree, that 'losing game dog' often ends up seen as a plug. If that same dog did the exact same thing, yet won, for whatever reason, his gameness is deemed more valuable.

    I like the idea of having multiple year end titles. I like the idea of Kennel of the Year, and maybe even Producer of the Year as well. No other 'organization' has just one year end award. I mean at 9PM the Oscars come on, they make one award announcement, and then its if off by 9:04.

    I would love to see another category "Gamest DOY". For me, and it is my personal opinion, GDOY would be more impressive than DOY. EWO

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Pit Bull Committed View Post
    I would also cull one that is game to the bone but lacks mouth, ability, stamina, intelligent, etc.
    What are smoking? My 2xw was a game dog, little below average mouth, average ability but rocket scratches. he won his first in 247, won his 2nd in 2hrs(which I should've retired him nd built a dynasty around him) and lost his 3rd into a tough 1xw who had recently beaten a highly regarded CH. I knew what this dog was ”a game dog” on his best day but he won 2 and lost extremely game in his 3rd, are you telling me this dog should've been culled after schooling? No he deserved to live and do what he was bred to do. The only mistake that was made was by me not retiring him. Game dogs very much deserve to live and should revered by those who witness them or own them

  4. #64
    Yes Mister game dogs are the epitome of what these dogs are hence the name.

    I know where Pit Bull Committed is coming from though. I've known many dogmen who would also cull a game plug in search of a match dog. Typically these men have no interests in breeding stock so that type of animal has no value to them.

    I certainly would never cull a dog who never stopped trying, I think it is backwards thinking. If you don't want to continue with them send them to someone who will. These are the dogs who possess the foundation to build upon.

    S_B

  5. #65
    Mister, most people can't win with a dog like that. They need all kinds of mouth, ability, and all the strengths to pull out a win. There are some guys who don't have the balls to let it ride and give one the chance unless they feel like they are a heavy favorite. Nobody likes to lose, but some are terrified by it. A good durable game dog is as hard as any to beat.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by S_B View Post
    Typically these men have no interests in breeding stock so that type of animal has no value to them.
    Like I said, dog butchers, not dogmen.

    And they seldom have really good records either.

    Jack

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by EWO View Post
    I voted NO. I think DOY is a performance title. I would like to think it means for the period of that year a certain dog won over the stiffest of competition. I do not know a lot about this year's odds on favorite (PBB DOY) but the fact he won as many as he did and beat a dog who had won just about as many as he did would get my vote for DOY.

    If one of the dog's he totally outclassed yet made those chin scraping, legs broken scratches were on the ballot I would not vote him for DOY. But if there was a category for GameDog of the Year that dog that showed that gameness would get my vote, and the winner/loser would not factor in.

    I consider DOY as the best total package dog for that given year. I think it was in a previous post, but the gamest dogs find themselves on the 'losing' side of the bracket, simply by running into a more talented/higher ability dog. And, unfortunately, and I do not agree, that 'losing game dog' often ends up seen as a plug. If that same dog did the exact same thing, yet won, for whatever reason, his gameness is deemed more valuable.

    I like the idea of having multiple year end titles. I like the idea of Kennel of the Year, and maybe even Producer of the Year as well. No other 'organization' has just one year end award. I mean at 9PM the Oscars come on, they make one award announcement, and then its if off by 9:04.

    I would love to see another category "Gamest DOY". For me, and it is my personal opinion, GDOY would be more impressive than DOY. EWO
    Quote Originally Posted by S_B View Post
    +1 Well said.

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    I like that ewo

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    A game dog always has a spot on my yard.

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    Gamest dog of the year should get titled. I'm all for a gdoy.

    That would shake the game up.

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