Yep.
Most knowledgeable people realize even the greatest of dogs
can lose when they
step up in class and face
other truly great dogs
For example, and once again, just recently the great
Gr Ch Homer Balboa (6xW) was also a 6xW, a BIS,
and DOY winner ... and yet
he lost when he faced
another great dog in
Gr Ch Titere (7xW) ... who is now a DOY also. (Lotta Eli/Carver in that dog
)
Furthermore, even if a person takes his great dog, and spot-picks and goes into "no name" dogs, he can
still lose and get his ass handed to him, if it's a genuinely good and well-bred dog.
As yet another example in this RB/J-Eli/Carver debate, the great Eli/Carver (Rascal/Honeybunch) dog
Hardcore's Ch Doogie was a 4xW
and a DOY.
Doogie had defeated Keystone's CH Stryker
and he had whipped
Gr Ch Yellow's brother, the pure RBJ
Tant's Ch Rocko (4xW), stopping Rocko from achieving his own Grand Championship.
(Same pattern, folks ...)
Yet when Hardcore took his great, 2-Champion-killer, and faced the NOBODY Ram ... who had
his own little Eli/Carver dog
Flash ...
the great, titled Ch Doogie DOY ... LOST.
Granted, it was a 2:50 loss ... and, granted again, nobody knew Flash would grow up to be Champion Flash ... brother to
Gr Ch Bossman (12xW) ... but he
was another Eli/Carver dog
But that *is* the way things can go out there ...
All of these dogs are great dogs being talked about ...
Yet,
actually winning 7 (let alone 10!) is a very rare thing indeed ... especially when facing the absolute best to be had in the sport of dogs.
Ken Allen and the A-Team tried to win 10x with at least 4 different Grand Champions.
- The pure RBJ dog Gr Ch Zinc (6xW) failed when he tried into the pure Eli/Carver Gr Ch Sampson (5xW).
- Even the UNK-bred Gr Ch Dooley (8xW) failed in 2:48 when he tried into Carver/Heinzl-bred Gr Ch Melonhead (14xW).
- The pure Carver/Bolio Gr Ch Robert T (9xW), who had the best resume of any dog mentioned here, still lost #10 into the UNK-bred Tito's Ch Ninja.
- ONLY the great Eli/Corvino-bred Gr Ch Tornado finally made it to 10x for Ken Allen & Co ... but she didn't do it facing other Chs & Gr Chs ...
So it's a lot more difficult
to actually DO this, historically, than it is to project about it.
Especially when facing the kind of dogs Ken Allen and The A-Team faced back in the heyday of the APBT ...
But, if you pay attention, history
does have a tendency to repeat itself ... and
the same, basic combinations are the ones which are able to go the highest ...
While other very good combinations
do build a consistent, very respectable record ... but almost invariably get weeded-out after 5-6x ... and never seem to rise up to the very highest altitudes
Jack
Originally Posted by CA Jack
Yep.
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