Mexico "A word of caution"

[bullyson]

Just heard what went down in Mex this past weekend and was shocked at what i heard! First of all why would anybody from our side think its a good idea to enter your dog in a "14" card show thats not a typo thats 14. It amazes me, the stupidity of some people. Do not people realize that Mexico like the U.S has outlawed this activity as well as many other crimes ?? Why do some people think that as soon as they cross the border that they are entering the the "Wild West" where everything goes and everything is allowed from DUI, fighting in bars, abusing women, using drugs in public, relieving urself also in public to doing dogs at a 14 card show !! Several people told me that there was literally a line outside the gate to get in the site and that after paying the $80.00-$100 with no interest or verification of who they were or who they knew were given a wrist band to wear and allowed into the show. Not only a line of spectators but also a caravan of over 20-30 vehicles some with crates in the back of their trucks visible for all to see winding their way through the little town to the site!! Boy i wonder where there going?? Lol Are u fukn kiddin me!!! Listen to me guys n gals. Mexico is no longer a safe haven Wake up!! we are not only living in a post 911 world we are living in a post Micheal Vick world !! I realize that we gringos and i include myself with that tag even being Mexican/American. Why? because thats how they look at us overthere we are considered Americanos and rightly so !! we have been going down south to compete against their best for well over a century. Well it aint 1915 anymore when men were men and could be trusted. I am told that this show was visited not once but twice by the federalees and that even after being persuaded to go on their merry way $$ that they informed some there that someone on the "INSIDE" of the show had called them. I said all of that to simply say this. If we are going to survive as a subculture of PROFESSIONAL fanciers then we need to keep our underground outlawed sport UNDERGROUND!! and keep it among us OUTLAWS only!! NO FUCKIN OUTSIDERS!!! Wheww!

[Officially Retired]

What happened exactly?

[bullyson]

Word is one of the main players over there who i wont name but im sure youll figure it out is jealous of the fact that someone else has been putting on bigger shows than his hence the 14 carder.. and has been tipping off the local authorities (this also happened back in March) mind you now the suspected informant was also there at this show but what better cover can you have ?? The police showed up and told them that they received info that matches were being held and that everybody was going to have to disband (these fellas had already been paid off to stay away) but because of the size of the crowd and vehicles and the complaint that had been filed they came back a second time and shut it down and guess who had an alternate spot already ready? With walls,wash tubs,scales etc. etc... We dont need to be going overthere! We are at their mercy iv'e been there done that. Back in the 90s it was cool low key everybody met and parked at one location many miles from the site and we were all brought in in a couple vans or even a bus and everybody needed to know somebody or be matching something and if you didnt show up at the parking spot on time you were ass out of luck amigo!

[Officially Retired]

Just heard what went down in Mex this past weekend and was shocked at what i heard! First of all why would anybody from our side think its a good idea to enter your dog in a "14" card show thats not a typo thats 14. It amazes me, the stupidity of some people. Do not people realize that Mexico like the U.S has outlawed this activity as well as many other crimes ?? Why do some people think that as soon as they cross the border that they are entering the the "Wild West" where everything goes and everything is allowed from DUI, fighting in bars, abusing women, using drugs in public, relieving urself also in public to doing dogs at a 14 card show !! Several people told me that there was literally a line outside the gate to get in the site and that after paying the $80.00-$100 with no interest or verification of who they were or who they knew were given a wrist band to wear and allowed into the show. Not only a line of spectators but also a caravan of over 20-30 vehicles some with crates in the back of their trucks visible for all to see winding their way through the little town to the site!! Boy i wonder where there going?? Lol Are u fukn kiddin me!!! Listen to me guys n gals. Mexico is no longer a safe haven Wake up!! we are not only living in a post 911 world we are living in a post Micheal Vick world !! I realize that we gringos and i include myself with that tag even being Mexican/American. Why? because thats how they look at us overthere we are considered Americanos and rightly so !! we have been going down south to compete against their best for well over a century. Well it aint 1915 anymore when men were men and could be trusted. I am told that this show was visited not once but twice by the federalees and that even after being persuaded to go on their merry way $$ that they informed some there that someone on the "INSIDE" of the show had called them. I said all of that to simply say this. If we are going to survive as a subculture of PROFESSIONAL fanciers then we need to keep our underground outlawed sport UNDERGROUND!! and keep it among us OUTLAWS only!! NO FUCKIN OUTSIDERS!!! Wheww!

Word is one of the main players over there who i wont name but im sure youll figure it out is jealous of the fact that someone else has been putting on bigger shows than his hence the 14 carder.. and has been tipping off the local authorities (this also happened back in March) mind you now the suspected informant was also there at this show but what better cover can you have ?? The police showed up and told them that they received info that matches were being held and that everybody was going to have to disband (these fellas had already been paid off to stay away) but because of the size of the crowd and vehicles and the complaint that had been filed they came back a second time and shut it down and guess who had an alternate spot already ready? With walls,wash tubs,scales etc. etc... We dont need to be going overthere! We are at their mercy iv'e been there done that. Back in the 90s it was cool low key everybody met and parked at one location many miles from the site and we were all brought in in a couple vans or even a bus and everybody needed to know somebody or be matching something and if you didnt show up at the parking spot on time you were ass out of luck amigo!

Thanks for the info.

Who is the suspected informant?

We all realize it's not concrete info (yet), but it never hurts to know who to watch out for.

Jack

[bullyson]

V.R. do the math my friends!

[Black Hand]

Whoopdeedo.

[Black Hand]

Word is, there should be some kind of concrete evidence before calling someone a rat...

[Officially Retired]

Word is, there should be some kind of concrete evidence before calling someone a rat...

As someone who has handled "evidence," and built court cases for the insurance industry for nearly 3 decades, the two most compelling factors of crime are (1) opportunity and (2) motive

People get arrested and questioned all the time, based on these two factors, so (if this was an indictment against VR) and if VR had the motive and opportunity, he would at the very least be brought in and questioned (if not arrested) for being "the receiving beneficiary" of someone else's demise.

While it may be premature to "convict" him of the allegations at this point, and while many of the "facts" may well prove to be baseless allegations, certainly there seems to be enough "circumstantial evidence" to support his being called into question about it

Whether he ultimately gets convicted, or exonerated, of being called into question is a whole other issue.

Jack

[bullyson]

If it walks like a duck, well you all know the rest !

[Black Hand]

I hear you jack. But there isn't going to be any conviction, exoneration or questioning of anyone. It's just a bunch of hot air on the Internet. One anonymous guy online, talking about some other anonymous guys that he got word from, that some anonymous federalie supposedly told them them that another anonymous person in attendance at this huge 14 card show is the one who made the call. And I really do not mean any disrespect to anyone, but if I'm gonna air you out online I'm going to atleast attach my name to it.