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  1. #31
    So if you were going to out cross your VG line with a Eli dog.You would prefer breeding to a dog line bred on Bullyson,Eli jr.or Art than a cloned dog with identical genetics.Limited cloning could add all kinds of variation in the solid families of today but I do agree line breeding is were its at.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Bingo View Post
    So if you were going to out cross your VG line with a Eli dog.You would prefer breeding to a dog line bred on Bullyson,Eli jr.or Art than a cloned dog with identical genetics.
    Yes.

    In fact, I think certain highly-inbred sons/daughters of dogs are better producers than the original dogs themselves.

    For example, dog-for-dog produced, I think the inbred Long's Werdo was a better producer than Jeep.

    Dog-for-dog produced, I think the inbred Ch Yellow John was a better dog and producer than Redboy.

    Dog for dog produced, I think my Miss Trinx and Dolly were better producers than Lady In Red.

    On and on it goes ...

    I am a firm believer that THE WHOLE PURPOSE of line-/inbreeding is to ISOLATE AND HARNESS the key genetic traits of any given animal, even better than the original animal itself.

    The original animal (typically) does not have isolated and purified genetics, which is WHY we start a line- and inbreeding program

    Sometimes, when you first start to in-/linebreed on a great dog, all the SHIT in that dog comes out, in one malformed, worthless individual.

    However, by the same token, sometimes when you in-/linebreed on that key animal, then all the GOLD comes out in one particular offspring, making him *more* valuable than even the original (let alone any "clone") could possibly be

    Therefore, I would take the ¾-Redboy Chavis' Ch Yellow John over the original Redboy any day ... I would take my ¾-LIR Miss Trinx over the original Lady In Red any day ... and I would take the ¾-Jeep Long's Werdo over the original Jeep any day.

    This is JMO, of course, but it's based on seeing the PURE dogs throw higher-percentages than the originals did themselves ...

    Etc., etc.

    Thus, in the end, BREEDING MANAGEMENT is more valuable to a dogman than cloning ...



    Quote Originally Posted by Bingo View Post
    Limited cloning could add all kinds of variation in the solid families of today but I do agree line breeding is were its at.
    I am sure it "could," but I don't think a clone will ever be as effective as the original dog ... whereas I truly do believe THE RIGHT inbred dog can be even MORE effective than the original.

    Jack

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  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Hand View Post
    Good points.
    The best you could ever hope to do with a clone is "keep your position" ...

    While it is true that you can lose what you have by making the wrong breeding decision, the flipside to that is, in order to advance, you need to make a the right breeding decision

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    The best you could ever hope to do with a clone is "keep your position" ...

    While it is true that you can lose what you have by making the wrong breeding decision, the flipside to that is, in order to advance, you need to make a the right breeding decision
    And this is exactly where my mind set is on this topic.

    S_B

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