Silver back vs poncho

[Rolltidepride]

In a group on facebook the other day the vise grip blood came up in conversation
50/50 split
I chimed in because i have a 15 month old gyp that got into a kennel accident and actual loved the results i seen from her
The conversation spoke on silver back was no producer and poncho was the way to go.....
I seen on here where jack said he liked his silvervack dogs better and brought up tha. Point
My gyp is poncho on top Silver back on bottem so i sat and watched from there
Now i bring this thread here where it belongs who threw the better dogs for ppl who had them first hand

[CrazyRed]

Well I would say off what I seen or know of couldn't go wrong with Poncho for sure. Would love to get some more heavier poncho stuff for sure, it was a dog named Krypto around and he was bred nice and I always was waiting to see if he produced. Seen a few off Silver and didn't see 1 quit at all, there is a son of his around here. He don't have the punch but the dog is most definitely a specialist and a wizard on the head and muzzle. He also is a very game dog, I tried to buy him a few times.

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In a group on facebook the other day the vise grip blood came up in conversation
50/50 split
I chimed in because i have a 15 month old gyp that got into a kennel accident and actual loved the results i seen from her

Well, Poncho is the more famous dog, and his pups were being sold at a time when I was active (and the game was a lot more wide-open), so more of Poncho's pups got matched.

Both were WAY above-average dogs, of totally different styles: Silverback being deadly; Poncho being a long-distance dismantling specialist.

That your gyp did well is what these genes are designed to do: well they pretty much kick ass wherever they get off the plane

The conversation spoke on silver back was no producer and poncho was the way to go.....
I seen on here where jack said he liked his silvervack dogs better and brought up tha. Point

Silverback was no producer? That's news to me

A 9-0 record, in times ranging from :20 to 2:36, is a 100% win record. Hard to top that

Poncho had a lot more Champions, and a couple that won more than 5, but hell most of Poncho's breedings were outcrosses sold as match dogs.

By contrast, every single breeding I did with Silverback were line- and inbreedings, to highly-inbred Poncho bitches, so MOST people bought Silverback dogs as brood dogs

Not to mention the very fact that of ALL the freaking dogs I have bred, that I placed Silverback alongside Poncho on my avatar here ought to tell anyone with a brain what "I" think of Silverback

My gyp is poncho on top Silver back on bottem so i sat and watched from there
Now i bring this thread here where it belongs who threw the better dogs for ppl who had them first hand

There is no way for me to answer "who threw better dogs," as Poncho produced more Champions ... but Silverback has a perfect, 100% win record, bred to Poncho bitches.

When I bred Poncho to Coca Cola, I got the baddest dog I have ever seen, Ch Stormrbinger.

When I bred Silverback's father to Coca Cola's daughter, I got Ch Vengence (cover dog and featured in an article, "Best Dogs I've Ever Seen," by the editor).

When Silverback himself was bred to a double-Poncho bitch, Sassy, this produced PonchoBack, a freaking fabulous dog who outfought everything he was ever put on, and beat a more devastating brother to a Grand Champion in 2:36.

"Tha Point" is they' BOTH were great dogs in their own way, and threw FAR more high-quality dogs than what most people will ever be blessed to own ...

Jack

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Well I would say off what I seen or know of couldn't go wrong with Poncho for sure. Would love to get some more heavier poncho stuff for sure, it was a dog named Krypto around and he was bred nice and I always was waiting to see if he produced. Seen a few off Silver and didn't see 1 quit at all, there is a son of his around here. He don't have the punch but the dog is most definitely a specialist and a wizard on the head and muzzle. He also is a very game dog, I tried to buy him a few times.

Thank you.

Most of my dogs are head specialists.

Silverback was an ear/nose/throat dog ... Poncho an ear dog ... Missy an ear/muzzle/armpit dog.

[CrazyRed]

Thank you.

Most of my dogs are head specialists.

Silverback was an ear/nose/throat dog ... Poncho an ear dog ... Missy an ear/muzzle/armpit dog.

A very nice dog he is, and he starts on the head and finds his way to the face. I want to say his bottom is heavy Poncho either scream or Dirty Diamond.

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A very nice dog he is, and he starts on the head and finds his way to the face. I want to say his bottom is heavy Poncho either scream or Dirty Diamond.

This dog perhaps?

He has some really nice sisters too

[Thunder98]

Can't say enough about this one....http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=50063
Like to say thanks to the fellas for this one. 25lbs of hellraiser....

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[CrazyRed]

This dog perhaps?

He has some really nice sisters too

Yes that's the dog right there.

[Officially Retired]

Yes that's the dog right there.

I wish you would get him.

I am sure, if he is like his forebears, that he would STOP 95% of the so-called "badass match dogs" out there HIS WEIGHT.

I can't tell you how many dogs "that bit harder" have been stopped by my dogs.

Dogs like Mystery, Toro, Igor, etc. ... were rolled over and over and over again by their owners ... stopping "badass prospect"-after-"badass prospect" ... outclassing them in every possible way ... "except mouth" ... and were absolutely 100% GAME TO THE CORE ... and yet these Poncho dogs were never actually matched because their idiot-owners felt they weren't "devastating."

That would be like "not matching" Mohammad Ali because he "didn't hit as hard" as Foreman and Liston

Maybe he didn't, but Ali beat their fogging asses on every other important level

Jack