Kennel 3 bury one
Never heard that before
Is it open to interpitation or wat does it mean
Kennel 3 bury one
Never heard that before
Is it open to interpitation or wat does it mean
The old fellow meant if you kennel 3 terriers together, they will fight and 2 will kill the 3rd one... he said 2 would not be as apt to fight.Originally Posted by Del
I would not recommend kenneling any 2 or 3 bulldogs together, this was quoted to me about working terriers.
Common sense isn't so common these days.
Yeah your right SGC it's time to give them there own space. I don't want this to get out of hand.
It's a pain in the ass takes up way more kennel space when they come out crazy
Buddy of mine had a litter of 6, 4 males and 2 females. Well the 2 females had to be taken out by 6 weeks, the 4 males got along for a very long time they stayed kennel buddies til about 5 months and even up to a 18 months old they could still be around each other playing and not harming each other. After he started peekin at them he never let them be around each other but the one male ended up in the house in which they had a Jack Russell and they were buddies.. Well the 2 females, 1 quit cold turkey in about 22.. The other showed well before being sold in which she caught 1 and then got retired to brood.. The males, were 4 of the gamest dogs I ever seen.. 1 became a 2x before losing his 3rd in over 2 hours in which he was on bottom the entire time but kept scratching and kept coming and my buddy decided when he came back to even it up that he would let him scratch one more time then pick up. He had to make decision, leave him down to win and lose a game dog or pick up and take a game dog home. 2. Lost his 1st time out in a game effort, he didn't make it but that was part of my buddies kennel partner's fault, my buddy was away working when call got made. His KP who we never seen shape the dog took him and shaped him, at 34 he came in at 32.5, and the other came in 35 (well we have a saying that won't no 16oz of water make you lose a show but at same time this ain't 16oz this is almost 3lbs) we begged him to take FF and go home bc his charge wasn't even on weight I attempted to contact my buddy but to no avail. Well from the start we could see H wasn't healthy nor was he in good shape at all, immediately took bottom but worked his tail off til he couldn't make the count at 1:06 but good gracious he sure was trying, they couldn't save him. 3 Won his first with ease, probably was 2nd fave out of the litter, he ran through the comp in 18 and his 2nd he was doing pretty much the same when at 25 a snap on the nose took the whole thing off and pulled his face down, well the boy kept working, my buddy picked up at 30 bc it wasn't pretty.. He courtesy and screamed the whole time. We had a mirror behind us trying to fix his face and he looked and seen it then tried scratching. he healed up pretty good with a new face, too much to hold on the yard so got bred 3x and he was sold. We kept all 17 pups that Bingo produced and he threw very well, out of the 17 I only remember one quitting, rest of them were all good dogs he produced 2 Chs and a host of 1 & 2x.. My buddy wanted to buy him back but soon as we tried locating him we got a call they took him out because he was so crazy and still relatively young being a little over 4 when they did him.. Well he took 3 hours but got it done. 4. The last of the litter was kept in the house til 3 years old, was as friendly as teacup yorkie. We had a young who we wasn't sure if he would start so we let Magic go over and to our shock he went to work. We stopped, came back 2 months later and gave him a real look on a hound that was a 1x we were excited about, pushing 2lb magic dispatched of him. We put him out there, 1st he won easily in 31 and 2nd he went up a weight class from 35 to 38 and took 1:48 but he would not be deterred. He pulled it out on one unbelievable scratch. Was retired and got bred a few times because we liked him and because of success of his brother.. Magic produced pretty good not as high % as his brother of dogs who didn't quit but his offspring definitely had more ability. My buddy went through some tough times with his family and end up falling away from the game for a few years. We kept a few around but Magic was given to me and at the time I just didn't have yard space to breed him much because already had 3 winners on the yard who weren't getting bred enough, he did become my house dog until he passed.
Your right landsford101, it is crunk on the yard...that was my whole deal.. I had been placing them out letting them get use to being tied out so that helped with them being use to it ...I keep the female in the house ,she's good with the family. Also I used the crate and rotate to get them crate trained and use to it ...working good so far. Problem now is the heat or bark at each other like crazy.. I place bark collars on the older dogs to tone it down a bit....I just need a good system for feed time...they go nuts at that time..
Great read Crazy Red...sounds like a good group...
I'm New to this site but old to bulldogs.
Been around them for most of my life over 40yrs. I was the 1st inspector, judge & state rep for the AAPBA in the late 90's in Colorado. I wrote an article before in a magazine the ADBA Gazette yrs ago Starting from Scratch based on breeding's.
All of that is to say this.
I am one of those dumb asses you are talking about culling before they mature LOL.
That's what dog men should do if they are responsible & not peddling.
You know when folks get on my level everything you know is different from what others think.
If a pup shows defaults YOU CULL. Why would you hold onto a pup with a birth defect?
But others reasons for culling young dogs are simple. It goes with what I said about my level. It took me well over 2 decades & going thru whole litters to gain the knowledge of my family.
A knowledge that most never seen nor will see. Breeding for specific styles & age of when to see the styles.
So far you'll see my name 12-15 generations in the dogs I feed. That's knowing each dog,belly mate & 1/2 siblings to that dog you see in the pedigree, not just the dog in the pedigree. I went different directions from start to current in breeding with these dogs. Owning dogs for 40yrs in one thing . Breeding dogs is another. You can own only 4 dogs & have seen only 4 generations in 40yrs if you wait until they are 10yrs old to breed. You can have seen 5 times as many if you breed them @ 2 yrs old when they are old enough to compete with. It's up to you but each way gives different knowledge of dogs, breeding's & bloodline.
I have yet to shake hands with some one who has handled more dogs per generation . Not to say they don't exist but to say I haven't met one.
After 4 generations you know the basics of your family. How old to see what in them & what to look for. You just know. After 8 strait generations you can tell long before that dog is 1 which direction it's going. You just can. But once you have personally handled 12-15 generations I could tell you by sex ,color, early behavior & parents what to expect by what age in most cases without needing to see the dog.
This is not something someone with 6 or 7 may try but someone with 12-15 generations knows.
They more you actually see ,hands on, the less you guess .
To do this means to be & stay consistent. 12 generations of head dogs that start up before 1 yr old won't go rear end & late starters over night.
Not every dog turns out, they just don't no matter what or how you breed, but the ones that do, no worries.
If my dogs don't have it in them @ a certain age then it's no wise to waste time on them.
Allot have came off the bitch on fire & stayed like that there whole lives & past it on gen-gen.
I breed working dogs.
Not papers ,not tittles & never names of breeders.
Working dogs.
Hope don't mind me putting up different peds, but once again "NEW" to this site & have far too many dogs to create a ped in a few days.
Example of @ least 12 strait but 14 hands on generations.
The only true knowledge is hands on knowledge.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=574954
One more thing.
Most I started out with bred for themselves.
Themselves. They kept the peds on how they were bred to themselves.
They only bred to replace what they needed .
If they only needed 2 or 3 that's all they kept yet none left there yards.
Why let your competition get what you feed to beat you with if no one can beat you?
Never leave behind what you have so your enemy can beat you with it type of menatlity.
I would think a little bit more about culling & why people do what they do.
How did the Holland Lady Bird dog produce? I see her top and bottom in that pedigree. Ms. Lady bird?
EWO
Heard this a lot and have seen it often. Two little guys start scrapping and which ever one goes down, male or female, another brother/sister piles on.
The first litter I raised off of Mims Bonnie were fiery little pups. They pretty much had a rule amongst themselves. Fight all you want just do not lay down. If one of those pups 'took the bottom' the brothers and sisters would make him pay. It took a couple three days to figure out the troublemaker/instigator and once she was removed the other four lived well together.
I think with puppies just about any scenario imaginable can become a reality. Puppies being separated early has no direct link to one becoming a show dog. And the puppy that sits over in the corner minding his own business may not always be that way.
Purepower's Skull was the laziest dog that ever lived. From a puppy to three years old. He moved to eat, piss and shit. Any other time he was asleep. Like that from a puppy. He had to be removed because from 5-6 weeks on he was that litter's punching bag. He went to a pet home with a guy who raised a lot of our pups. He was not in the dogs per se, but he loved to work and play with them til they turned on. Then we would get them back. Socialized and a willing worker. He sent this dog back because he would do nothing but sleep. I kept him til he was 2. Zero effort. No interest. I traded him for another. There he showed zero interest and was bred once as a cold dog. He went to another place and was treated miserably. Damn near starved to death, living in shit and filth. His last owner gave that shit head two choices. One, I am taking the dog. Two, I'm beating your ass for what you have done to this dog and then I am taking the dog. He chose the first option.
Skull must have felt some sort of appreciation because as soon as he was healthy he was a monster. He won 4. Beat 2 champs. And he went over 2 hours twice. He was three before his schooling started and won his last match at 5. I m not sure if he were a late bloomer or he just seen the light. In the end he was all bulldog. In the beginning he was huddled in the corner just minding his own.
EWO
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