Looking for any and all information on this subject. I have a young male (10 months), just found out two weeks ago from my vet this is what he has. To be honest I'm not sure what to do, looking for second opinions thanks.
Looking for any and all information on this subject. I have a young male (10 months), just found out two weeks ago from my vet this is what he has. To be honest I'm not sure what to do, looking for second opinions thanks.
Hammer dogs tend to get this also, specifically in the left rear knee.
This might not be a popular opinion with vets or conformation folks, but my own view would be that the dog just has a little more work to do to win
Ch Hammer actually carried several structural faults, but it still didn't prevent him from whipping and curring-out dogs with better conformation 8-)
IMO, the worst conformation fault at all is not conforming to the APBT standard of gameness ...
Jack
I agree with you..some what, I think I'm more worried about hurting him in the long run. I am very active in weight pulling and feel that an injury or genetic defect of this matter would only hold him back and most likely make it worse? besides surgery is there anything else that can be done?
For actual weight-pulling, that might be a true sport-preventing defect, but in "other" sports the problem can be overcome with gameness and learning to work off the bottom.
Straight weight-pulling, however, is another matter entirely.
Jack
Thanks...
I don't know what's each degree exactly out of my head but you should be really careful putting an animal with PL in the ring. Some luxate very easily and don;t shoot back out it self. The dog can have gameness all he want but all he has left then is 3 legs. I guess your dogs Jack didnt have such bad degree, just a little loose patella's. With something worse then that i personally would never do any sport nor breed the dog cause its a genetic fault. If u still want to do WP the dog make sure the surrounding muscles are very strong.
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grade 1
The kneecap can luxate: With a stretched leg its possible to move the kneecap by hand. and when moved back to normal mode it automatically shoots the kneecap back in the right position
grade 2
With this grade the pattella regularly shoots of and stays luxated for a longer or shorter time
By regularly on and off shoot of the patella caused osteoarthritis and cartilage flattening of the slot.
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from grade 3 it stays off, when u put it back it shoots back out
Originally Posted by R2L
Actually, Ch Hammer had hip dysplasia too. Hammer was considered a "low ability" dog because he was always on the bottom. The truth is, Ch Hammer was an unbelievably-tough, unbelievably-smart dog who figured out how to adjust to his handicap ... nullify from the bottom anything his opponents tried to do to him ... and who would always turn things around and stop them in the end. His last victory was over Lou Lewis' Chainsaw in 1:58 (I'll let you guess as to how the dog earned his name).
So, yes, in a way Ch Hammer compromised the otherwise great structure of the Hollingsworth bitch I had in Trinx, but he added a level of toughness and intelligence that the Hollingsworth dogs never had themselves. I have tried to select for the most athletic dogs out of my stock, and so the problem is almost non-existent in my line anymore, especially via Silverback who actually has the most powerful backend and hip structure of any dog I have ever owned ... and, in the exact opposite fashion of Ch Hammer, Silverback has never been down once, he is such a capable athlete and wrestler.
Jack
I see why you bred that dogI guess we can say you're and expert in breeding bulldogs and/so you did very well.
Thanks.
Like all of us, I gained my expertise through many years ... of many trials and many errors ... and just hung in there like a bulldog
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