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  1. #341
    I'm a fan of RBJBT (mostly because that's what I own) but somehow I'm less of a fan of just RBJ without the bolio tombstone (hollingsworth/buck).

  2. #342
    http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=8836

    We beat three or four over the years. They were Tant and Burns bred. Never was much of a fan.

    I worked a RBJ/Mims cross for his fourth and never seen a harder working, more determined dog.

    Got a chance to get this female on the Mims/RBJ cross. She is just a puppy but I am digging her so far.

    EWO

  3. #343
    So essentially Mims = redboy/snooty/bolio right?

  4. #344
    Yes.

    I'm digging the Mims RBJ cross.

    S

  5. #345
    http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=61943

    This is by far the hardest working dog I have ever seen. This dog went all out on everything he did. He gave maximum effort on any and all of the equipment.

    He made the turn table look like a saw mill. Long runs on the 4 wheeler I had to continually speed up as he was always trying to out run the machine.

    He was freak bull strong, could pretty much breathe underwater and never tired.

    I had to learn how to apply the brakes with this dog.

    EWO

  6. #346
    I love how he's bred. I run some of that X-Factor and Barr-Cayman blood. How big is he?

  7. #347
    Do you think he's better than Ali Baba?

  8. #348
    No experience with Ali Baba. Only heard good things.

    Which is better would just be speculation. It would take a dog with a ton of mouth and an incredible motor to stay with Lil Man.

    Based on what I heard about both, leave both of them down for an hour and neither side would have much to work with afterwards. That would be my best guess.

    But a guess still the same.

    I would have loved to stand on top of either of them.

    Check your PM.

    EWO

  9. #349
    Quote Originally Posted by EWO View Post
    http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=61943

    This is by far the hardest working dog I have ever seen. This dog went all out on everything he did. He gave maximum effort on any and all of the equipment.

    He made the turn table look like a saw mill. Long runs on the 4 wheeler I had to continually speed up as he was always trying to out run the machine.

    He was freak bull strong, could pretty much breathe underwater and never tired.

    I had to learn how to apply the brakes with this dog.

    EWO
    Have a grandson of his that i'm liking so far.

  10. #350
    Quote Originally Posted by evolutionkennels View Post
    Here is my input on this beat to death subject. BOTH lines are a great line of dogs. The Bolio-Tombstone blend of dogs crosses great with the Eli line for mouth establishhing a seperate line (Boyles) , and the Redboy-Jocko crossed excellent with Rascal and Honeybunch creating the HArdcore Kennels dogs. Here is my opinion, The best Hollingsworth dog ever as a performer was Gr.Ch.Mayday. he was simply a beast. traveled from Puerto Rico to New York City to South Carolina beating the likes of the Gator Boys, Tant, and Soulman. He was indeed a killing machine. With all respect to Waccamaw, If Big John was as good as Mayday, he certainly didn't travel and beat those big name kennels. That being said....Mayday was half Redboy-Jocko! Indeed he was a Hollingsworth dog, bred by Mr.Hollingsworth himself. That begs the question of ,"If the Hollingsworth line had all it needed, why did he breed to Yellow. In addition to that what other Hollingswoth bitch bred to any dog produced three champions in the same litter?" Its a good question. What I am getting at is that Yellow added value, and Mr.Hollingsworth knew it somehow, and the bulldog world is glad he did. As it pertains to Gameness, I've said before ..both dogs bring it, but I think it's a different kind of gameness. My opinion is that the Bolio-Tombstone dogs are deadgame because of thier stubborness in face of defeat, because of their will and mindset not to lose or be defeated. The Bolio-Tombstone dogs are stubborn sons of bitches. You're not going to make one do anything they dont want to. Their coats are finicky and they are LOUD! Lets just say that the neighbors won't appreciate Gr.Ch.Buck living next door.

    The Redboy-Jocko dogs are equally as game, but in "my opinion" it's cause they are just to stupid to quit. It's like a switch flips and they will keep on coming no matter what. Like a chicken with it's head held to the ground. Add to that that my experience with Redboy-Jocko dogs is that they are destructive high strung dogs that will run the chain until they die, destroy their doghouses, uproot tree roots.

    Frankly, because of that , If I had to pick one or the other it would be the Hollingsworth line. Smarts trumps Retards. Thank goodness.. I dont have to pick one. Almost all my dogs are half of both. That being said, I own two pure Bolio-Tombstone dogs off Ch.Red Pirate to Miss Blitz. I do not own a pure Redboy-Jocko dog. I got rid of the bitch after the breeding to Bull because she was just too destructive. Even managed to destroy and eat some of a stainless steel bowl. That was the straw that broke the camels back. You guys can choose to go at it repeatedly, but there will be no winners. Gr.Ch.Yellow, Gr.Ch.Rodney, Super Gnat's Boots (4:52) Gr.Ch.john Boy, Ch.Yellowjohn, Ch. Rocko, Ch.Deadlift, and many more cement this bloodlines legacy. Crossed into the jeep or Rascal made Ch.yellowolf, Ch. Redman, Ch.Mystic, Ch. Bozak, Ch.Doogie, Ch.judy, and many more.

    The Bolio-Tombstone line has a thousand dogs on it's own including Gr.Ch.buck (ROM) and a thousand Boyles winners. The Boyleslineis Hank x Redbaby. Redbaby is a Bolio dog and they used Bobby Jr. heavily. I dont care about west coast or east coast. to me, that is silly. There are many dogmen on the East Coast like STP and Captain America , Southern Kennels, Havannah Boys, Strictly Business that have done the deed well for many years, but the West Coast has just as many if not more. I guess you can sum it up with "to each their own" It is my opinion that half redboy-jocko and half Bolio-Tombstone is better than either on their own. But thats just my opinion based on my experience. i LOVE the Hollingsworth dogs, but if given the choice to cross it with Eli or Redboy-Jocko, its not even a choice. I believe the Redboy-Jocko dogs are 10x gamer than the Eli dogs, and the Termite strain of Jocko do punch just as hard as an Eli dog.

    I will say this, because when we did it, we traveled all over the country. YOU MAKE YOUR NAME TRAVELING AND SPANKING PEOPLE IN THIER BACKYARD. Thats how we did it. More credibility to those that do it like that hunting down the hard competition than those that stay locally. I applaud Mr.Hollingsworth's "idiot savant" decision to breed to Yellow. I love my dogs . I urge both parties of this argument to take the high road and show leadership given our audience.

    Thanks for posting this. I was wondering why my Hollingsworth machobuck dog was so stubborn. She has the coat like you mention. It would be good to have someone to ask about things like that. I thought she was a bad representative of her line. You can learn a lot listening to people with more experience talk or argue.

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