I've only seen two Red Johnny dogs go ... one was named LA Pit Crew's Golden Boy, who won his first in like 2:10, and the other was one of the Old Man's dogs who was a 4xW ... but was done wrong on his 5th and was stopped in like 2:30, but it was by no means a punk stoppage. The dog had babesia and basically fought awfully close to the point of death before he just stood, then collapsed.
Jack
good stuff jack...i haven't had alot of experience with different strains of the boyles line but as far as production % outside of a few cold and late starters this guy never did us wrong...http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=330731
1/4 of that Otter's Sweet Pea blood in there could do wonders for staying power.
This is all hear say from what I heard so take it like a grain of salt , technically Chino didn't quit because he was picked up, but he was making and showing all kinds of bad signs.Originally Posted by reservoirdogs
But Chino seems to be producing some good ones.
I would add on the nice pedigree SHOWBOX posted that while there is a Boyles bred base behind that gyp, there is a lot of other breeder influence in there too. Up front it is mostly STP, and ironically they really never classified themselves as breeders.
I guess I'm late coming to this particular party, but I would have to agree with TFX's opinion regarding Boyles dogs. Some of the first dogs I started with in the early 90s were dogs off Spark Plug, and they were the only quality Boyles dogs I fed with any type of regularity. Everything else I ever ended up with off Champions, Gr. Champions, ROM dogs were low percentage dogs that I wouldn't even think of feeding to this day. I've always loved how those dogs were bred, but there simply wasn't enough bottom end in those dogs for me. I also never saw all the mouth or the ability that people claim to see from these dogs, but that could lead to an entirely different thread on viewpoints on such things. As a whole, they were low percentage, rank dogs on average.
Turk, I could've taken Reed home back in the 90s before he ever went down South. Reed, and his brother Reny, were both 1xw and 1xL. Both lost to dogs that eventually became Grand Champions. Reed lost to Troublesome, and Reny lost to Spanky. They both lost on their opponent's championship matches. All the other dogs from that litter quit. While they weren't all rank, there weren't any others that showed anything promising bottom end wise. I don't know how Reed actually ended up producing when he went South, but I know Reny only produced one quality dog out of the limited breedings down with him once he went back to WCC.
if indio took the count how was that a draw?
If a scratch to win was a stipulation.
I know this post is from long ago and I must have missed this but quite an interesting read with some points added that I whole heartedly agree with. Some will be disappointments as such is the case in every line you decide to run but for A line that is so called mean and nasty curs..there are so many great dogs that was simply not mentioned and if I may I would like to mention them...and I ask where did the STP get his Boyles dogs from?
Jersey Boys Ch Sarge
Jersey Boys Ch Black Bumpus
Jersey Boys Gr. Ch. Running Candy
Jersey Boys Ch. Dirty Becky
Jersey Boys Ch. Black Paz
Chambers Ch Black Paz Jr
MCK Kimmie Girl ( proved to to be game as a one could be)
I love what Backstreet was able to do with one phenomenal bitch ..Dirty Jersey...but let's give credit to where she come from...J was a top rate fella I have had the pleasure to meet in person before all the bullshit...
Ch Rolex was a good one...owned by good camp...Strictly Business had plenty of Great Ones of their own but who did they come up under....I believe the line has produced many phenomenal winning athletes and will continue to put winners on the ground. If you ask Ronald, he would say you ain't doing right if you are not breeding them but as he has people around him he can be selective as to what he breeds..isnt that the key to anything?
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