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[Frank43]

I recently got two pups off sons of Hollingsworth’s bull. I can’t find a copy of the book. Does anyone know a way to get a hand on it.

[CYJ]

Frank43. I believe Jack sold all those books awhile back. Right before or not long after he sold this site to Brick Face. The Hollingsworth book came in a all color and a black and white edition. Believe both were printed in a limited edition format. Some of the members on this site, that may have purchased those books. Can probably give more accurate facts. Cheers

[Frank43]

Thanks for the help. I know someone that mentioned he had a copy. He mentioned scanning some of the pages for me. One of my pups has that blood. I really like her. Temperament and structure wise. She’s built well and loves people. I’d like to get in Hollingsworth’s head and understand the different strains of the blood. Thanks for the help. Some people have crack. Some dogs.

[CYJ]

Do you have the stud and dam pedigrees on this site? Not that hard to understand the over all influence of the major dogs in the pedigree of your pup or puppies. Run the fourteen generation on the mating. Everything will break down into percentages of over all influence.

Hollingworth dog's had Lightner red/ red nose influence back in those dog's pedigrees. Yet other strains of dogs can produce the red nose color influence as well. Two different things.

Mr. Lightner bred a red/red nose family of dogs and he later bred a blue or brindle strain of Lightner dogs. He called one the red strain and the latter the blue strain, not that those dogs necessarily came blue brindles etc. The closest strain of dogs that came from the old Lightner red/red nose family of dogs was the Hemphill dogs. Some of his friends in that same time era also breed that strain and tried to keep it intact. Jake Wilder bought the last of Mr. Hemphill dogs. Iron line kennels owned by the Norrod brothers have the last of Jake Wilder's red/red nose Lightner stock.

As getting into Mr. Hollingsworth head. I am sure Jack's book on those dogs would answer all that. Mr. Hollingsworth may have felt that the red/red nose dogs of the Lightner strain carried more of the deep game gene influence. He may have felt the Black/Eli/Bullet etc. dogs were rougher harder show dog types, but tended to be less game with a lesser game gene influence.. Now that is just my adlibbing. IMHO, I feel the success of those Hollingsworth dogs was due to the main breeders behind those dogs. Mr. Hollingsworth saw the value of what they had done and the fine dogs he had acquired. He strove to keep his main family breeding's intact. Like a lot of us, when we finally have got some of this dog game figured out. We ourselves have run out of time. LOL

Mr. Hollingsworth's dogs like the Jocko/Red Boy dogs came big boned/well built with good breathing abilities. Big boned dogs for their show weights. Plus the Hollingsworth's dogs from what I have been told, showed deep gameness and willing to go the distance. My old friend George Cox told me about those Hollingsworth dogs and encouraged me to go check them out and possibly breed too one of his stud dogs. I did talk to V.J. about it. We never got on the same page and failed to follow through. Wish I had though. Cheers

[Frank43]

This are my dogs.
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[Frank43]

I guess when I say get in his head. To see how he made decisions. When looking at a litter. Choosing what stud etc. I’m working on a way to get in the woods and hog hunt.

[Frank43]

How does a person add a dog to the registry

[S_B]

How does a person add a dog to the registry

Hey Frank43 we do not allow outside pedigree links. To register your dogs into our database visit our video tutorials.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/content.php?232

We are very organized for the most part with our database, please take the time to watch and understand how to properly enter dogs before doing so. We are here to help if you have questions so don't hesitate to ask either myself, Brickface, Apeman, or CYJ. Thanks.

S_B

[CYJ]

IMHO,When it came to breeding crosses with the Tudor Dibo strain. The Lightner strain seemed to work the overall best. More so than the Colby crosses. The early Don Maloney crosses usually carried about a quarter of the Hemphill blood or the Heinzl cross.

One of the best crosses made to the Cotton's Bullet strain was the brindle/red nose blended variety of the Lightner dogs. Mr. Eagan Skinner and Dean Plemmons had about perfected that cross. But Mr. Skinner lost the majority of those dogs when he lived in N.C. His dogs got drowned by a flash flood.

When you get your dog's pedigrees on this site. You can better see what you have over all. For now all you need to add is the Stud and Dam's pedigrees on the pups. Cheers

[Frank43]

I gotta get those peds uploaded. I like knowing the history behind the lines. I’d like to hear the thought processes of different breeders. I could Reading history of this stuff all day.

Who was Vernon Jackson? Is there anyone but waccamaw with a higher percentage of jocko blood in their rbj.