Only kept Flame for a little while . She had a lot of heart. Not to smart but heart. Guy who got her from me like her allot & says she's a little more smarter. I seen Lady bird once & what caught my eye was that she was smart for a red boy dog. Gameness still there but smart with a decent mouth.
Good story EWO. I dont have good experience with the hot dogs from litters.
Her brother Bobby was a match quality dog. He could really shut it down. He was rough and bit way harder than his pedigree would suggest. The way he looked, acted and showed he was down out of the Vernon Jackson dogs Mr. Holland had.
I had a female out of her brother Bobby that ended up winning once. She was a game dog with pretty good mouth, really intense and stayed in the face.
We bred her once to her half brother and I have a male out of that. Next litter she got off the chain and the guy lost her.
Saw the name in the pedigree.
good post.
'EWO
Originally Posted by bossman311
Good stuff EWO
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=54274
This litter is around 7 1/2 months ,,,, for a first gen...breeding I'm honestly liking what I see.....
Very pleased so far....
Good to know
I wonder about stuff like this too. How much can you tell about pups when they are young. I know the balance changes as they age. I know what bossman is saying when he says you raise pups and see them as adults you know your line better. Thats why I don't understand people line hopping so much but to each his own. I like where I am for now.
Most people talk about aggression and hotness in pups. I watch litters to see what pups do. I notice the pup that wanders off by himself and starts working a rug hanging on a rail like a spring pole. I notice the pup that tries to take a bone from his dad and get popped. then goes back to take the bone again. I look a lot at tail position. out of a litter of nine I saw five I wanted. I owed a friend so I gave him what I felt was the second dominant female in the group. I look at tail position a lot. From the parents I had the more reserved on was the killer. I watch and see tail position. One pup I liked was so small compared to his brothers and sisters but his tail was always flagging. his sister was the same way. she was always more athletic. the first to climb the stairs and used to always wander off with her mom one on one and leave the rest of the pups. She could be punishing. Once her brothers were placed I got reports they all came out of their shells. Like they were being suppressed by her and the little male. There was a third pup out that litter. He wasn't shy he used to always be over on his own. His mother was kind of aloof too. This pup would never start problems with the other pups in the litter. I never saw one of the pups in the litter start things with him and come out on the top of the exchange. Maybe this matters and maybe it doesn't. the little pup will follow you naturally and works hard like his dad. he was so unathletic when he was little the sister I kept used to beat him up. He works. He followed naturally and I think hes like his dad where he would try his best to follow you even if he died in the process. We went for a bike ride the other day. about halfway through he starts working hard and running faster like he was getting stronger. when the wrestle now he wears her out with persistence, energy and perseverance. I wonder if in the end he ends up being a really solid dog. because if you look at his puppy characteristics he didn't start shit, didn't take shit and was willing to work. The reserved brother I parked. I think he's a mix of smart and stubborn. He won't walk for shit. he will come to you went he knows you. Hes with my dad now. he will go behind him and steal the tools hes working with. I think its a sign of intelligence and playing. He was never an aggressive dog. something tells me when he turns on he will be a beast. just hard to train how I like to train but he is his mother in a ox strong package. I have limited space and time. I just wonder how many times you have a set of characteristics you value breeding towards. How many times you go with your guy are you wrong and how many are you right. Most of the pups I like never are the ones to just start shit. They usually end up on top if someone else starts it.
@Frank
Basically, I can say the majority of people who breed and KEEP the litters look for the same things, but we tend to misinterpret what we want with what we think.
One can not be a "little pregnant" so we will see a lot of things in a pups actions BUT make excuses to OURSELVES.
Now I can tell you with certainty that some pups have been real hermits, never barked at a dog and actually played with curs but once placed in the squared circle become a complete beast.
I've seen and owned one that actually would watch with his head on the wall of the box 2 going at it, but not jump in.
When told/asked if he wants to go...as if you are taking him out for a walk he would start to scream and cry .... The best part is he would (at times) jump over the wall in the middle of the box and turn and look at the closet corner, run to the corner and turn without stopping and scratch right back at a dog.... It's as if he knew he must start from the corner and always have to scratch from a corner.
This was not your regular dog but then again, none of these dogs are regular.
Seen one go just over 3 hrs to a draw, stop 17 mins in his next.
Live Love and Learning..... these dogs.
North Strong.
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