The Price Of Pups

[ROCK-MACHINE]

Funny how animal rights lunatics have been pushing propaganda about how pit dogs is a money thing... If I was going to breed for money I'd do something like Teacup Poodles at 10k a pup or whatever. Seen English Bulldog types sell 20k a pup. Not to mention those deformed American Bully dogs at 20-30k for tri-color. Ever seen those? Now that's real cruelty to animals. List goes on... Back to the subject: A person can ask what they want for a pup. Period. And it's no one's business. If you want a pup off a long dead famous dog, you have to pay up and someone always does. The critics seem to be those that are unable to afford it. There is no shame in not being able to afford something. There is, however, shame in mocking those that can.

Well Said !!!

...and speaking of deformed :

http://www.barcroft.tv/world-s-bigge...illion-dollars

[Frank43]

I like him as a breeder, he established his family using a blend of Eli, Hank and Bolio to various degrees and was able to achieve a uniformity that many seasoned dogmen had great success with. He cared less about having his name in every slot of a pedigree and more about having the right dog.

With regards to breeding to Alpo or Machobear if it were my money I would choose Machobear as he was a proven producer, keep in mind anything to Machobear will be by A.I. as he is now deceased and with that will come a bigger price tag.

I know nothing about the Little John Jr dog and for myself a pretty pedigree alone doesn't mean anything to me. If you like the Little John blood I would look no further then CML's Loco.

I respect his work. He’s almost like a Patrick. Made a little family bred so that it stands crossed by other people into other strains. You make a good point. I’m not looking for a pretty ped. More like ingredients in a mix. You have to make decisions with incomplete info with the way things are. I know my female needs a shot of redboy blood. She isn’t the hardest worker but high on brains.

If you do things right there isn’t much money in it. If you can make enough for dog food and upkeep and pay for stud fees with puppy sales you’re doing good. You can’t sell to everybody. If the people getting them don’t have a fighting spirit and a brain they will think these dogs are like any other. I’m not the one with a clay Davis mentality ,”I’ll take anybody money if he’s giving it away.” I want to know my dogs and build more brains into them. I like working dogs. Not really trying to peddle or end up a target by alphabet boys.

[ROCK-MACHINE]

I respect his work. He’s almost like a Patrick. Made a little family bred so that it stands crossed by other people into other strains. You make a good point. I’m not looking for a pretty ped. More like ingredients in a mix. You have to make decisions with incomplete info with the way things are. I know my female needs a shot of redboy blood. She isn’t the hardest worker but high on brains.

If you do things right there isn’t much money in it. If you can make enough for dog food and upkeep and pay for stud fees with puppy sales you’re doing good. You can’t sell to everybody. If the people getting them don’t have a fighting spirit and a brain they will think these dogs are like any other. I’m not the one with a clay Davis mentality ,”I’ll take anybody money if he’s giving it away.” I want to know my dogs and build more brains into them. I like working dogs. Not really trying to peddle or end up a target by alphabet boys.

You may want to look into the Dykes/Nelson/Deloach/Boyles blend rather then straight Redboy, the ones I've seen bring a lot to the table and then some. You want to find it heavy Otis with no more then 1/4 Haymaker though.

[Black Hand]

Long gone are the days when you had to be qualified to have a valid opinion that was worth sharing to the world. You might ruin your reputation before you get started, sharing what you think about others when you have no real merits or accomplishments yourself. I always thought the best way to combat the practices you dislike is to put forth the change you would like to see. If you think 2000 is too much for a pup... build your yard. Put the time and effort un culling, cultivating, and putting on display the kind of animals fanciers from everywhere would be happy to own... then given them away or sell them for 500 dollars. Blaze the trail you want others to follow.

[brasso]

Long gone are the days when you had to be qualified to have a valid opinion that was worth sharing to the world. You might ruin your reputation before you get started, sharing what you think about others when you have no real merits or accomplishments yourself. I always thought the best way to combat the practices you dislike is to put forth the change you would like to see. If you think 2000 is too much for a pup... build your yard. Put the time and effort un culling, cultivating, and putting on display the kind of animals fanciers from everywhere would be happy to own... then given them away or sell them for 500 dollars. Blaze the trail you want others to follow.

Those days never existed and opinions are not meant to be validated.

[Black Hand]

Those days never existed and opinions are not meant to be validated.

Sir, I'm speaking to the other dogmen on the forum.

[brasso]

Sir, I'm speaking to the other dogmen on the forum.

Me too. Not meaning to pick on you. Sorry if it came out that way. I only meant that everyone has a right to their opinion.

[brasso]

Well Said !!!

...and speaking of deformed :

http://www.barcroft.tv/world-s-bigge...illion-dollars

If that's a pit, I own Amazon. I was at Petsmart this weekend and this couple in their late 20's had a bully. Not kidding, poor dog could barely walk. More of a belly crawl. Didn't need a leash, couldn't walk more than a few steps without collapsing. A very sad sight to see. But somehow having a healthy dog on a long chain will get you fined or worse.

[ROCK-MACHINE]

If that's a pit, I own Amazon. I was at Petsmart this weekend and this couple in their late 20's had a bully. Not kidding, poor dog could barely walk. More of a belly crawl. Didn't need a leash, couldn't walk more than a few steps without collapsing. A very sad sight to see. But somehow having a healthy dog on a long chain will get you fined or worse.

[ROCK-MACHINE]

Long gone are the days when you had to be qualified to have a valid opinion that was worth sharing to the world. You might ruin your reputation before you get started, sharing what you think about others when you have no real merits or accomplishments yourself. I always thought the best way to combat the practices you dislike is to put forth the change you would like to see. If you think 2000 is too much for a pup... build your yard. Put the time and effort un culling, cultivating, and putting on display the kind of animals fanciers from everywhere would be happy to own... then given them away or sell them for 500 dollars. Blaze the trail you want others to follow.

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