Your welcome.
To appreciate just how good a dog Ch Silver was I think it's important to understand how truly badass Ch Blackmup was, if it's possible try to watch one of Ch Blackmups matches before you watch that Silver vs Blackmup video.
I remember when Ch Silver was alive and after seeing his matches on video, I was so impressed with his intelligence, athleticism and controlling head style, that I wanted to base my yard on Ch Silver... I contacted kennels that ran that blood, Shumadija kennels (and others that I can't remember the name of right now), with a view to buying dogs from this bloodline. However, the more research I did the less impressed I became, the dogs of this bloodline have to be the slowest scratching dogs i'v ever seen in my life. I personally would not feel confidant showing a dog from this bloodline under cajun rules.
Last edited by AmberLamps; 02-29-2012 at 02:10 PM.
Interesting commentary MTK.
The Silver/Blackmup match sounds a lot like when the old man and his crew took the Robert T dog to face the Ch Gomez dog. A spectator there (who was friends with the old man) took him aside and said, "This is the baddest, killingest dog I've ever seen. If he bites you twice, you die. Don't bet too much." The old man thanked the guy for sincerely trying to warn him of this ace, and then asked him, "I have an extra ten thousand left to bet on Robert T, are you interested?"
Well, it was a helluva match, and pretty much everyone there thought the Gomez dog would have beat any dog alive ... except the greatest head dog ever known (in the USA anyway) ... and Robert T finally stopped Gomez in 3:10, on the ear. Gomez almost got his shot once, as he hit Robert T in the backend one time, and blood hit the ref, and it crippled Robert T, but he got Gomez out and never let him back in there again.
In the end, Gomez' entire head was swollen like a watermelon, and he staggered out at 3:10 and took the count, which was a shame because all the veterans I talk to said RARELY is a dog who bites that damned hard that damned game. True, he wasn't dead game, but to go 3:10 with a the Ace of all Ace Head dogs was something no other dog had ever done. When Gomez faced regular dogs they were rendered dead or disabled in minutes.
Anyway, just rambling on about this because what you said about Silver/Blackmup match reminded me of it
Jack
Thanks for sharing that Jack, that made for some interesting reading.
Funny what you said about Gomez' head being swollen like a watermelon, as this is exactly what happened to Ch Blackmup, if I remember correctly when he's asked to scratch he scratches into a bulldog logo on the pit wall because he cant see Ch Silver.
It would be nice to hear your assessment of Ch Silver once you've seen the video, especially seeing as you've got a lifetimes experience of breeding intelligent, athletic head/ear dogs... Cheers
I believe black mup was 7 when he went in that match, must look it again cause for all i know he stopped.
i do would like to have some of that old sorrel blood, but im full
would go for some red jerry!!
He didn't stop, he made an attempt to scratch but couldn't find Ch Silver, he was given another chance to scratch, a courtesy, after he was cleaned up a little more and he went straight over to Silver. Blackmup was also open after that deal with nobody willing to go into him. There's no doubt Ch Silver beat a hell of a badass dog in Ch Blackmup.
R2L: I have to commend you on giving proper reference to where you got that story on Ch Silver, and for deleting the name of dino_cg. I'm the one who copied that story word for word out of Zinetti's book and put it on the net, when I did it I gave full reference and credit to Zinetti, his book, page numbers, the lot. Only to see someone going by Dino_cg remove those references, copy and paste it all over the net and add "........... by dino_cg"
Therefor taking all the credit as if he wrote the story himself, the prick!
Well done you
Well done yourself!
Never noticed that 2nd scratch, you're right he didnt see where he was heading to lmao
There is still some good black mup blood around in the balkan.
I haven't seen that video in a few years, think it's about time I sat back and watched it again.