Understandable. But I know when you do finally write about the vise-grip dogs of the past it will help people who dont feed this family or who have thought about trying this family, a full understanding about how and why these dogs are what they are today. I'll be waiting. Thanks in advance! Lol
By the way, is solid gold still around?
Just write the book on the vise grip line n hurry up hee hee
We are waiting
Seriously, I know you are a one man band and now have a lady in your life, so handle your business 8-) hopefully one day I can make it your way and shake your hand... Stay cool dude
Originally Posted by CA Jack
I don't know what thats all about.
I actually just got done reading your response to the Ouch thread and get the chance to respond to all the PM's I had recieved.
For what its worth. I'd like to thank you for such an excellent and detailed response. I sincerely appreciate it.
Have A Very Happy New Year!
Jack,
Silver Pearl should be coming in any day now.
Jack
I am ready when you are my friend
Jack
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Silver Pearl is in heat now. I'll let you know when she is ovulating so I can make that breeding to Silverback.
I talk to CH Red Bull's former owner weekly. It should be noted that he has given the dog away to a fellow who has had dogs a long time and is taking good care of him. Truth be known, he missed a few breedings, and it was questionable as to whether he could sire pups. His semen was tested and the sperm count was very low. He finally did sire a litter to an outcrossed bitch recently. Northern Express bred him twice to CH Shiver, and unfortunately did not get pups. That would have put some of the best of the Chase/Chita blood with some of the tightest of Jack's more recent stuff, but it was not to be. I would expect CH Red Bull to be one of those dogs that people look back on and lament that he was not bred much, or bred in the family. History is full of those stories.
Good deal
And thus is how bloodlines die ... lack of diligence and follow through
I remember Mason's Bolio Jr., who could hardly sire any litters at all, finally did sire three litters. 2 of those three litters were to Lineman's Rosa, that produced Bandana's daddy Charlie Boy, and to Patrick's Rosyta, that produced Coca Cola. Those two dogs produced an awful lot of poison that won some incredible awards ... so sometimes it is worth it to "keep trying" if the dog is bred well enough ... and is good enough ... which Red Bull certainly is ... but alas N. was never much of a breeder.
Jack
PS: U-Nhan-Rha's sister Twilight was bred to Silverback to produce a little dog up north called Magilla. Well, the guys who had Gr CH Rose Red 5xW (and who took her devastating brother into Silverback's ACE son PonchoBack--and lost in 2:36 to PonchoBack), own the Magilla dog and say he is as slick as PonchoBack with twice the mouth. Meanwhile, Uey's Twilight was then bred to Screaming Icon to produce Buddha, who grew up to be a helluva head dog, just smart as a whip. Well, Twilight was bred to Silverback again and these pups grew up on the same yard as Buddha ... and one of them was rolled with Buddha ... and the Silverback/Twilight dog absolutely decimated the Screaming Icon/Twilight dog, and it took an hour to stop all the bleeders in Buddha. Then they put the other Silverback/Twilight dog on a RBJ-type dog, who was 4 lb bigger and had stopped multiple dogs bigger than he was, and that dog was picked up in :09 with "Primate" in his intestines. Wildchild said that this dog was the best out of all the dogs he's ever got from me, which have been at least 12. He just lost DG with a son of Rocko in over an hour, and he really liked that dog, but said he didn't think he'd live to the :20 mark with Primate. There is something about Silverback where a significant portion of his pups are simply devastating! Too bad I can't get too many of them up passed the 31-lb mark
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