So, because the dog was a Jeep/Redboy dog that means he will go to the backend?
OG, I don't think any of us believe you're bullshitting. I believe you in that you think breeding the dog caused all of this to happen. My experience has always been the exact opposite from seeing many dogs bred between shows, in keeps, you name it. I've never seen it do anything like what you describe.
Anything COULD happen when it comes to showing dogs. That's a given.
Exactly my pointOriginally Posted by FrostyPaws
wow give OG a break, I think you guys are missing the point OG had a crazyass dog and he gave his opinion as to what happened to HIS dog
(I would to see a video lol) and i believe him!!! and remember dogs cant talk,but boxers can i remember watching Oscar Del La Hoya being interviewed on tv and the exact same question came up and Oscar said it DOES effect proformance he went thru his keep having sex because he thought it was an old wives tale but after the fight he did say he thought it (sex) took some air out his tires,(the legs) oh and he still won the fight!!! so mabe you guys that bred them dogs before their race and won just had better dogs but before you bash me yes i have seen dogs go thru a keep and get bred and act perfectly normal for their race, but none and i mean none masturbated every day for 8 weeks,I think my balls would fall off!!! thats got to be the funnist sight ever i could sell tickets to that show. Great web site Jack Best of luck with it!!!
Blast, no one is blasting OG or have any intentions of blasting you. I also said that I believe OG when he says he thinks that's the reason for what happened.
As it turns out, about 98% of the shows won are by better dogs where conditioning plays little to no part in the outcome.
As for Oscar, he was also snorting coke and running around in women's underwear, so it could have been any number of reasons why he was having some issues!
OG - I'm not under the assumption you are a bullshitter in any way, shape or form. You are trying to validate something with TopShelf's argument. To argue TopShelf, I can offer my own experience. I was a collegiate football player and a national level Powerlifter with top lifts of 804 squat, 568 bench and a 722lb deadlift. During college, you can bet, there were times sex was enjoyed literally MINUTES b/f some practices and the night b/f games. The same can be true of my training and competitive lifting. I experienced nothing TopShelf experienced himself. SO, who's right? We have experience vs experience in referencing sex and it's affect on the "rear end of a male".
This argument reminds me of Jack's with the DE. There is no science to back up any of this. TopShelf's references to 7 days prior is actually assinine. Hell guys, I can have blood drawn, which will, no doubt, weaken the athlete, and STILL compete at full strength within 6-10 hours.
The bottom line with your dog, I believe is you had yourself a dog with "problems". The fact he's jackin off every day proves it. An unsound dog, in any area, is a dog that is more susceptable to losing than a sound dog.
You believe what you want, but breeding a dog the day b/f anything will not affect the 'anything' in any way. The actual action of sex and the loss of semen does not do that. Now this could coincide with other factors leading to a performance loss, but the actual sex and semen loss, the day b/f will not lessen a dog's strength.
Reading NQK reply i tend to agree, it is more mindset than physical.
Need to ad, if it's just one breeding close before any activities. I can see breeding a dog doing something with the mindset of a dog, taking an edge of perhaps ? With plenty of rest however it would not affect the dog in activities, let's say 7 days or so after breeding him. Have no experience with this, but very interesting topic.
You guys are right. And I am wrong. Here we have a person who SEEN many dogs been bred before, during and after each show and still won. Who could argue with that credibility? Also NQK who was a top collegiate power lifter said it didn't affect him what so ever. So again guys listen to these 2 dudes, one guy has an offspring of the world famous Ch Spade dog(who was hard to kill)and the other seen many dogs being bred before, during, and after a show and still won. Again I am wrong for telling about one of my experience, and hope you fellas can forgive me for doing so. Just when I thought I knew it all come to find out I know nothing?
P.S Remember to breed your dogs before, during and after a keep if you want bulldogs who are hard to kill. I'm out this thread. Peace y'all.
Because we don't agree with your reasoning on why Redman did what he did, that's how you act? I happen to think you believe what you said. I'm not calling you a liar by any stretch of the imagination. I can't apologize for all the dogs I've seen people do that with and none of it ever happen. Your experience is what it is. Mine has always been the complete opposite. As far as I'm concerned, that's all it is to it. I'm sorry if some of us don't believe that's the reason why things happened, but it doesn't mean we're right or that you're wrong. It simply means we don't agree.
You obviously think it makes a difference given what you endured. Some of us obviously think it doesn't due to personal experiences of our own. That's all fine and good, but I think the sarcasm is just a waste of time on your part.
OG - I think what you had was a real good dog that, for whatever reason, went a little psycho with the masturbation obsession. That's really too bad. I think whatever it was that turned him 'nuts', no pun intended, is what did him in. I see how it would be easy to believe what you do on the surface.
I'm with Frosty. I don't think the sarcasm is appropriate on this particular board. We don't agree on this topic and it doesn't appear that either side will sway the other.
For me, the bottom line is I hate it you lost a damn good dog and he went weird on you. I owned a real good bitch one time, ate her own tail off for the hell of it and was a horrific mother. Shit happens.
Take Care!
My small contribution is about observation in humans. In this TV series, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_Science_(TV_series) , they tested a female boxer performing in training with and without sex the previous night, they found that she did better with sex.
It is also known that eastern european female athletes, the pioneers in doping, used to participate in every major competition while beeing in early pregnancy, their hormonal status would be in a favorite state and they would perform better.
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