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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by evolutionkennels View Post
    Yes I do!

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by R2L View Post
    its just my guess, but standing on the feet is something different then handwalking, free running and playing around. doesnt give the dog full hard muscles.
    was talking to some credible man from southern europe a few weeks ago and he said, dogs of my yard are always heavyer raised up there as "house dogs" then the littermates i keep on a chain here. funny thing is they would prefer "house raised" dogs if they could.
    easy answer. dogs on a chain are buring calories while dogs in the house are not. dogs on a chain are in far better shape as is than a house dog. but as for which dog to bring to a show the house dog is going to be easier to work because he's obedient and trained.

  3. #13
    R2L
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    yea they sure dont prefer them because of the weight but more socialized/self-assured generally
    he meant in shape as well. reason i brought this up is because im interested what other think about this and if you would let(leave) particular things while raising the dog and maintaining the dog regarding their muscle development. let's take as an example 2 extremes of identical dogs. a dog who has never been taken of the chain for 3 years and a dog who's been walked/played with allot up to 3 years.which one would be shown at a higher weight. tho i realize some chain dogs move around all the day while others are very relaxed.

  4. #14
    The smallest dogs for their weight I ever saw were the White Dog line.They were 1/2 high, 2 long, and you had to add another pound for the big ears. They were ridiculously game, and sometimes could bite, but they had to.do it on all 4's or from the floor on their backs, because they were terrible wrestlers. I always felt they started with a disadvantage to some extent, but they sure were game.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by bad dog View Post
    easy answer. dogs on a chain are buring calories while dogs in the house are not. dogs on a chain are in far better shape as is than a house dog. but as for which dog to bring to a show the house dog is going to be easier to work because he's obedient and trained.
    I've always been told a house dog is preferred for the connection between the dog and his best friend Versus a dog and his handler ???

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by bad dog View Post
    the house dog is going to be easier to work because he's obedient and trained.
    Quote Originally Posted by Abe View Post
    I've always been told a house dog is preferred for the connection between the dog and his best friend Versus a dog and his handler ???

    Answer already given Abe. And i too understand it's best considering handling.

    The question R2L and i pondered about is what is best for natural weight ? A dog that lives on the chain or a dog that lived in the house. Which looks bigger when brought in at the same weight, and which will have more to burn in the race.

  7. #17
    Imo a dog's natural weight has nothing to do with how they live. A 36 lbs dog is always a 36 lbs dog. If he's heavier the risk of runnig out of air is far greater. Get rid of that excessive muscle weight. It'll do more harm then help. JMHO.

  8. #18
    R2L
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    It'll do more harm then help
    im afraid of it too. the female i mentioned for example has very hard and full muscles, don't think it's just genetics. But i didnt compare enough to say whether it really matters regarding only the weight of a dog. . forget the whole chaindog/housedog thing. what i mean is would a similar dog be shown heavier because he was worked allot(to much) more during daily maintenance (outside the keep) sorry peeps, trying my best to type english.

    ps: that's just regarding the weight, i would be interested in other negative effects of excessive muscle as well, like lactic acid. but i will make a new topic for that.

  9. #19
    I am going to agree with the skipper. A dogs working weight is his working weight no matter if he's in the house or on the chain. Every mammal has his peak conditioned weight. Theoretically, The only advantage of a house dog is that they have the POTENTIAL to be more intelligent because of the srtonger connections in thier brain given that they would have excercised it more due to more interaction with the owner and other family members. As a matter of fact, once you get to an animals ideal show weight, it's hard to change it even if you feed him more.

  10. #20
    I've got a bitch at home now who is a 46 47 in shape female but when in shape she looks like a 60 lb dog. I was expecting her to be goofy and clumbsy as heck but she fooled me. With stupid athletic ability and annoying wind, she is also very very smart but even as a pup she was a escape artist who would watch me close the puppy pen then proceed to try and open it in different ways. until she finally figure out she had the ability to just jump over it. But her weight is also a problem because I could only get her in school once and no one else will take me up on schooling which sucks. Her conformation is damn near perfect and that has been proven via a few months of prancing around the show ring and picking up her ADBA CH. Her only flaw in that area according to them is that she is a tad long.



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