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Garners pens arent escape with out a roof
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Lol according to tom "wall jumping has been bred out of his dogs!"
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And no....pressure treated wood with thompsons weather seal will last YEARS!
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I'm aware it will last for years, but it won't last as long as metal - kennels.
I use to be in the carpentry profession. As much as you'll spend on Thompson a couple times a year, you could have bought in full price, a great kennel that will last a life time. Guaranteed
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Tom's kennels weren't as expensive as you would think as he bought so much of the material in bulk. He also doesn't have concrete flooring in his pens for his dogs. Those pens are 16x16, and they are taller than 6 foot in height.
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I use chicken wire on the top- so far so good
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you can do Garner type kennels for about $400. Id take the wood rotting on those before the wire part of my prefab corroadin (badly after only 4 yrs use from piss) on my 5x10s allday
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keep in mind the most expensive thing is those panels.....which last forever.....so your really just reaplacing $3 2x4's...........
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I don't like kennels. My remaining dogs are on 20' chains with permanant cinder block doghouses. I own a bunch of chain link kennel panels, but have converted them all into chicken and turkey pens as I find them just about useless for bulldogs. I do however have two kennels left for pups, bitches in heat or whelp, and so forth. I think my kennel setup is much better than Garner's, will last forever, and probably has a very comparable cost on a per square foot basis.
What I have are two side by side 16' long x 8' wide kennels connected to a 8' long x 16' wide open front building. Essentially, this makes two 24' long x 8' wide kennels with 8' of the 24' as an indoor portion for a wind and rain shelter. The construction of the panels is like Garner's; using the same type of panels, except mine have an all steel 1" square tube frame. They are 5' high panels, but by placing them on a 2 course cinder block footing (block is cheap), a height of well over 6' can be acheived. If one was insistent on a roof, 4 additional 4' high x 16' long panels run horizontal would cover the entire open top area outside of the building. Because of the building, the dogs have a 8' x 8'x indoor loafing area (64 sq.ft.), so even when it is raining they can stay dry to eat, shit, piss, or just lay outside of the house in a dry area that is still larger than some people's 10' x 6' (60 sq.ft.) kennels. This indoor area also serves as a large shade shelter in the summer. This design could even be modified to be 16' long x 8' wide, being half indoor and half outdoor. In that situation, one would only need an 8' long panel in front of the 8' long building to make the side run. Another adaptation would be individual 8' x 8' buildings, or even an 8' x 32' bulding for 4 side by side runs. The basic design is a good one and is very versatile. Because I have two extra panels sitting here, I only need to weld up one more 16' panel for example to extend my 2 runs to 32' long x 8' wide.
Garner's setup just has a concrete house plunked in the middle of the pen, no other wind breaks, no additional shade area (other than trees), and no additional dry areas from the rain. As NQK pointed out, that wood is going to rot in due time. Even pressure treated wood rots out friends, and those panel walls of his aren't pressure treated. I just bought a project home in which the power pole completely rotted off at the base and the only thing holding it up was the service wires on top, and some conduit on the bottom. This was a pole that I think was only 18 years old. Go with metal and concrete products in your dog yard, and avoid wood. These products are stronger, and will have a longer life. You will be much happier in the long run.
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