Honesty and Integrity

[No Quarter Kennel]

I think that both types of liars exist. No doubt. Some may do it, or did it, to hide a recipe. Others do it to simply sell pups.

The thing that always gets me is people who say, "if the dog is a good one, then does it really matter?" My answer to that, is if it doesn't matter, then why not just tell the truth?

I won't feed dogs from certain people's lines simply b/c I know those people have lied or sometimes simply b/c they are unprofessional. There are a lot of good lines of dogs out there and if I want to feed a particular line and the expert of that line is easy to work with, then I'm in. Why feed good dogs from a line who has an asshole behind it. Doesn't make sense. Personally, disagree if you will, but I don't believe any line of dogs has the market cornered on good dogs.

We all have a pedigree with a lie in it somewhere. I can promise you though, my word of honor, there will never be one lied about from that line as long as I'm feeding or breeding them. I'll own the bad along with the good and live with it. I have to live with me and that is still important to me.

Good angles and posts

[FrostyPaws]

Kimo, just for the record, Pedro didn't win 9, and there has always been some disagreement in the dog game about Snakeman and whether he actually won 5 legit shows or not.

[CRISIS]

Honesty & Integrity................in Dogmen???? .......lol.......hows a way of putting this without comming off as a prick......

i think the the biggest downfall of this game/breed is that its filled with the biggest lowlifes you can fimd!! now, dont get me wrong....ive come across some like minded folks that i can say are stand up people....but, thats the rare exception.

[scratchin dog]

Honesty & Integrity................in Dogmen???? .......lol.......hows a way of putting this without comming off as a prick......

i think the the biggest downfall of this game/breed is that its filled with the biggest lowlifes you can fimd!! now, dont get me wrong....ive come across some like minded folks that i can say are stand up people....but, thats the rare exception.

I think you hit the nail on the head right there. lol.

[SHOWBOX]

Honesty & Integrity................in Dogmen???? .......lol.......hows a way of putting this without comming off as a prick......

i think the the biggest downfall of this game/breed is that its filled with the biggest lowlifes you can fimd!! now, dont get me wrong....ive come across some like minded folks that i can say are stand up people....but, thats the rare exception.

That is an unfortunate truth.

SHOWBOX

[R2L]

so stay in a close circle

[Kimo615]

All I know is what I've read on Pedro. That being said it says 9x with two uncontrscted. I've never heard that speculation about Pedro. Can you tell me what you know? Interesting.

[No Quarter Kennel]

Honesty & Integrity................in Dogmen???? .......lol.......hows a way of putting this without comming off as a prick......

i think the the biggest downfall of this game/breed is that its filled with the biggest lowlifes you can fimd!! now, dont get me wrong....ive come across some like minded folks that i can say are stand up people....but, thats the rare exception.

You are exactly right Crisis. The biggest problem in bulldogs is owners. No question about it. Sad considering the honesty and initigrity and the character of the breed. Too many attracted to the qualities they themselves lack.

[wrknapbt]

I won't feed dogs from certain people's lines simply b/c I know those people have lied or sometimes simply b/c they are unprofessional. There are a lot of good lines of dogs out there and if I want to feed a particular line and the expert of that line is easy to work with, then I'm in. Why feed good dogs from a line who has an asshole behind it. Doesn't make sense. Personally, disagree if you will, but I don't believe any line of dogs has the market cornered on good dogs.

Man as you may know I am a person who likes the ofrn dogs but will not own a certain family just because I feel like the breeder is, has and keeps lying about how the dogs are bred. There is another dog man in NC who I will not deal with for 2 reasons. One is that he has lied about peds and 2 I have had several people tell me that the only thing he was missing was a sheet and a burning cross.

[FrostyPaws]

Snakeman was a known liar when he was in dogs, and a lot of the men back then don't believe Pedro won a legitimate 5 shows. There is no doubt that he's not a 9x winner. That never even showed up until the advent of pedigrees online and someone's overactive imagination.