Jack that is just speculation on your part. I wouldn't contain a dog in this manner but AT LEAST he's healthy and clean in appearance.
Jack that is just speculation on your part. I wouldn't contain a dog in this manner but AT LEAST he's healthy and clean in appearance.
Maybe this particular picture could be viewed that way. As an empty out spot or what have you. But its speaks volumes to the larger picture. Which is most hounds are kept on worse set ups and in worse conditions. Even if this is a temporary spot its still a good teachable spot and someone could learn a lot. Seems like an aweful lot of effort for a temporary spot though. Just not a fan of the set up.
Um, you're the one speculating it is a "temporary" chain setup, are you not?Originally Posted by S_B
What makes your version "knowledge" and mine "speculation?"
I think, when considering the 2 versions, it makes much more sense that a proud owner would take a photo of a dog on a brand new chain spot ... than it does to ponder "why" anyone would put a huge padlock and swivel on a "temporary" chain spot.
Care to explain why the huge lock, and massive swivel, if it's only an "quick empty" setup
Hell, for that matter, a padlock is stupid, period.
It prevents nothing.
A swivel that big is stupid, period.
It bangs against the dog's legs, and is "overkill" whether the spot is temporary or not.
As Tastyrib noted, the chain being up against the house isn't too bright either.
As the title suggests, it is simply a ridiculous chain setup.
If you want to call it a "temporary" one, be my guest, but it still doesn't change the point.
Jack
PS: If anything, temporary "empty" chains are usually light in nature and may not even have a house. The whole point of a temp setup is speed and quick access because you don't feel like walking the dog. So you just go outside, put him on a chain, to empty, and then come back out in 5 min to bring him back inside. If anything, snaps are used on temp setups, for ease, not massive, hard-to-deal with, swivels. Why the hell would anyone need a massive padlock and chain for a quick "temporary empty-spot"?? That is almost as dumb a thought, IMO, as the idea that padlocks stop thieves
Jack,
Show me where I said that spot was temporary....
The knowledge in my comment was the dog appeared in good health and in a clean spot. I'm not a fan of this spot but I wouldn't go so far as to SPECULATE why the owner chained him this way. I mean for fucks sake at least there isn't trash everywhere and the dog isn't an unhealthy rack of bones like many pictures showcased on pedigrees here and elsewhere.
I agree with you in many ways but I'd put more passion in a truly deplorable photo over this one. This owner is just not to bright for utilizing this set up to me nothing more.
S_B
This is seriously the most active topic on here? Dog looks fat and happy who cares.
Like I said, it is not enough information to make a call.
A comparison....this was my first day off after a series of nights. Tons of things to do. This morning I told my son to clean the bowls and I will follow behind with the water. If a video was taking of me providing fresh/clean water to my dogs some would see it another way. I had somewhere else to be so I didn't dress for working the yard. I skirted each spot and filled the bowls. I didn't interact with the dogs other than speaking to them. For some, it would be another bulldog hung out on a chain with no socialization, no interaction, just chained out til his turn.
Come back two hours later and one dog is on the mill, my son has two young dogs in the day pen ( just over an acre of part back yard/part wooded area). Each dog gets a chance to run and play.
But a single shot or even a video of me just watering could be 'speculated' in many different ways.
In the Visegrip video on youtube (around the 8:25 mark) Poncho has a crate in his chain spot. Although it is verbally explained that it is a day spot/or emptying spot or what ever temporary term is used, to some maybe if Poncho could still throw pups maybe he warrants a better set of living conditions? Maybe the owner could not afford one more barrel no matter how badly he wished to do so? Maybe the owner is just a fucking idiot?
Everything is not as it seems. I choose to give the benefit of the doubt when I do not know all the details, or even enough details to make a call.
As far as the lock being a secure way to prevent theft, it is not. The collar could be unbuckled. The axle could be pulled up, so let's bury it all the way in the ground, with some welded tabs and some concrete. Then there is always bolt cutters, heck, even a cutting torch. We could even point a 9MM and make the owner load the dog himself.
Maybe the lock was a visual deterrent more so than a physical one.
Maybe we should call the owner and say WTF? or it would be a stretch, but maybe just ask him nicely to explain.
EWO
PIT STOP (R) TOOK DAMN CARE OF HIS DOGS, I HAVE ACTUAL PICS (THAT WERE SENT TO ME WHILE ON VACATION BACK IN THE DAYS) OF A COUPLE OF HIS DOGS, CH. MECHANIC (SHIT I GOT ABOUT 5 OR 6 PICS OF HIM) BEING ONE, AND ONE OF A BREEDING HE WAS DOING WITH PIK, NO NAME WAS ON IT, IT JUST SAID ON THE BACK HEAVY REDBOY BREEDING (FUCK AROUND IT COULD'VE BEEN HIM)
I hate set ups like this. I too think it's extreme overkill. If anyone here has worn a tool belt, they know how annoying something like a hammer handle bumping your leg all day can be. Can you imagine something like a swivel that is about 5% of your own body weight and half the size of your own head, hanging from and hitting against your chest all day long?Anyone ever looked at the photo of Pitstop's Red ROM and think, "What a dumbass?", about the owner?
Does this dog really need a swivel and lock on him THAT BIG?
Has the owner ever considered what it might be like, to lug something like that around your neck, all-day, every-day?
Does this look comfortable to you? To anyone?
There is simply no excuse to make a dog wear a contraption like this.
(Not to mention the fact this dumbass owner apparently also didn't consider the reality that all anyone has to do is remove the collar, or pull-up the axle, to steal the dog)
What a flippin' idiot, pretty much across the board.
Jack
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