Vise-Grip's VANILLA SLICE

[noseguard]

Heres a male from that breeding you're talking about with tiger. hes upper 40s. I let the guy who has him now breed to him. i took this one from the litter n gave him to a dart friend but made him agree to feed a certain food.

i always liked that picture,, he doin the lukane kick for real//lol

the other three gritty ,gucci and truck were out here for a while,,, still bein sat on should be comin out soon... just playin the waitin game with them,,,, take care dart,,


@town bizz

hit me got a few q's and answers for your hando hound,, just found out i can reach you in the evening,, I always hit you early our schedules are different but i'll get wit you guy, take care bruh..

RR

[DARTMASTER]

i always liked that picture,, he doin the lukane kick for real//lol

the other three gritty ,gucci and truck were out here for a while,,, still bein sat on should be comin out soon... just playin the waitin game with them,,,, take care dart,,

he's sending this littermate (banshee) to me on sunday. shes supposed to be real small and muscular like my little mugsy dog and insane drive like her dad tiger

[TFX]

Don't you think he is merely a throwback to Phoenix' coloration but with a red nose from the Hollingsworth background? He has the full drop Hworth ears, or at least on the left side he does. :-)

[Officially Retired]

Don't you think he is merely a throwback to Phoenix' coloration but with a red nose from the Hollingsworth background? He has the full drop Hworth ears, or at least on the left side he does. :-)

Actually, that is what I originally thought, what you just said. And I believed this thought until Vanilla Ice sired a black/seal-colored dog, which would be genetically-impossible for him to do if he was a true blonde/rednose dog. The only possible genetic explanation for him to have thrown a black/seal dog when bred to a buckskin bitch is that he is a "milk chocolate," not a blonde/rednose.

One more thing also, is that both Ouch and Silverback had/have beautiful full-drop ears, which Silverback throws rather prepotently in a high-percentage of his offspring.

[TFX]

Hmm, I had not even heard of Milk Chocolate. So basically it is a dilute, like blue dogs eh?

[Officially Retired]

Hmm, I had not even heard of Milk Chocolate. So basically it is a dilute, like blue dogs eh?

Yes, it is definitely an "official color."

While I don't know the exact science behind it, there are basically genes that control coat color as well as nose color. Chocolate itself is some kind of diluted black gene with a rednose. And, just as red/rednose dogs can be anything from almost a mahogany-red color with a red nose, all the way to a blonde color with a red nose, essentially it works the same way with chocolate-colored/rednose dogs. Therefore, "milk chocolate" is almost like a blonde/rednose, except he's still got the diluted gene for black in him.

If you look at them close, you can kinda see the difference, but sometimes there's no way to tell ... until you see a black/seal pup come out, when the other parent isn't black, and then you realize that what you have is a "milk chocolate" rednose (not a blonde/rednose), as is what happened with Vanilla Ice
Jack

[redmistkennel]

Guys from my personal experiences with slices offspring he is producing very well. I would not sleep on this dog. Actually thinking about crossing my dogs into him soon.

[redmistkennel]

Also his owner is a stand up guy and good peoples. Well worth the small stud fee.

[QCK23]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=205791

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