((( PHOTOS OF FAMOUS VISE-GRIP DOGS )))

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Great pictures Jack. Loves these type of dogs.

Thank you. Just added some Notes on Red Sonja.

These dogs were as solid as bulldogs as bitches get. Tiny, fierce, but sweethearts

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I like the Blackwitch.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...85&thumbnail=2

Oh, you bet. I still lower my head everytime I think of what this bitch could have been, and produced for me, had she lived.

But she got killed by Red Sonja and Diamond Girl when she was 16 months old. Got off a shit chain setup at Rudy's place, and was decimated in a tug-o-war caught between these two gyps.

A horrible way to go for a fantastic animal

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http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=23528
I originally purchased this pup because of his sire's bloodline, but I picked him because of his maternal grandfather, Vise-Grip's Silverback!! Looking forward to some great moments with this special fellow.

Sounds great, let us know how he does

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Oh, you bet. I still lower my head everytime I think of what this bitch could have been, and produced for me, had she lived.

But she got killed by Red Sonja and Diamond Girl when she was 16 months old. Got off a shit chain setup at Rudy's place, and was decimated in a tug-o-war caught between these two gyps.

A horrible way to go for a fantastic animal

Damn that's terrible. How many black dogs were in that litter?

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And also Red Sonja ...

Love this dog. Thanks for sharing her pics!

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Damn that's terrible. How many black dogs were in that litter?

Actually, Black Witch is a seal-colored dog (a derivative of black), and she was the only one.

I didn't know what "seal" was, back in the day, but if you look at her photo you can see the red highlights in her coat, which is part of the seal coloration (derives from a combination of buckskin + chocolate/rednose).

If you click on Coca Cola's link again, I changed the 4th photo to show Coki on her first litter (which produced 4 pups: Stormbringer, Warlock, Tecate, and Black Witch)

Cheers,

Jack

PS: I never saw the color seal again, in any breeding I ever made, until I bred the chocolate Ouch! to the buckskin Missy and got Silverback

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Love this dog. Thanks for sharing her pics!

Thank you ... I loved her too

[CYJ]

Great looking dogs Jack. Built the way I like them.

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Thank you.

[CYJ]

When the cage fighting events first started on T.V. Gracie at 185 pounds dominated this event for a good many bouts. His style of fighting was hard to beat. Many of the later cage fighters had to learn many of the take down holds. The Gracie family taught in their hand to hand fighting methods.